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I mean, it's possible that he's lost his mind during the 7 years of imprisonment without trial.

geowwy 8y ago
The leaked chat logs don't sound like he's lost his mind https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4378830-Excerpts-From-Private-WikiLeaks-Twitter-Group.html https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4378830-Excerpts-Fro...
idlewords 8y ago
He lives in a diplomatic compound that he is free to leave at any moment. He's gone without trial by choice. The real victims here are the poor Ecuadoran diplomatic staff, and his ex-cat. Oh, and his victims, of course.
- rishav_sharan 8y ago
  What victims?
  - Kiro 8y ago
    His rape victims.
    - polotics 8y ago
      This has been disproven, so: citation needed, please...
      - rmc 8y ago
        No it hasn't, there hasn't been a trial. That's kinda the whole point of him being in the embassy.
        dragonwriter 8y ago
        Well, the recent immediate point of him being in the trial is avoiding the British bail jumping charges from his flight to the embassy to evade the extradition on the rape charges; the extradition is no longer active.
        gcthomas 8y ago
        But it could become active again very quickly while he is held by the UK authorities. The rape case is still open afaik.
        black-tea 8y ago
        In Britain, people are innocent until proven guilty.
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- xcppa 8y ago
  Pulling out the chloroform jar?
- ryanlol 8y ago
  >He lives in a diplomatic compound that he is free to leave at any moment He will be arrested if he leaves. How is that particularly different from say HMP Prescoed?
7e 8y ago
Or from cowardly refusing to face his trial.
- belorn 8y ago
  On the 20 August 2010 the police got the report and on the same day the duty prosecutor got the information. On 30 August, Assange was questioned by the Stockholm police On 1 September 2010, Överåklagare Marianne Ny decided to resume the preliminary investigation. On 27 September 2010 assange left the country, now a month after he had been at the police. On 18 November 2010, Marianne Ny ordered the detention. Now that sound like a person running from their crime. Its the most slow motion running of any reported case to reach the news. I also must applaud the Swedish legal system for effective and swift action, in particular for reaching a conclusion three months after the initial investigation when no new facts had been established. If only the prosecutor had reached the decision from the beginning, rather than wait until the accused leave the country, wait a bit longer and then order the detention. Did I mention rape cases are about the second highest prioritized crime in Sweden, next after murder? There were no murder spree between 20 August 2010 and 18 November 2010.
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erinyesita 8y ago
It’s disingenuous to imply he’s being held against his will in violation of his human rights when in fact the UK government has gone to great lengths to get him to show up to a criminal investigation, and his appeals in the courts were entirely ordinary.
- geowwy 8y ago
  In effect he is being held against his will, since he will almost definitely be extradited if he leaves the embassy.
  - lsh 8y ago
    No, he really isn't. But he will almost definitely be extradited the moment he lives the embassy. It might be a refugee situation, fleeing the US in fear of his life, but he's from Australia..
    - geowwy 8y ago
      His choice is either stay in the embassy or extradition to the US where he will face a very severe penalties, possibly the death sentence. Technically he's not being held against his will. But the reality is he can't leave.
      - viraptor 8y ago
        > possibly the death sentence. What? Is there any reasonable source claiming that's remotely possible?
        newnewpdro 8y ago
        https://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/01/11/assange_death_penalty/ https://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/01/11/assange_death_penal... Penalties have gone pretty sideways in the US when it comes to being associated with terrorism, and what qualifies as terrorism extremely broad and nebulous.

The leaked chat logs don't sound like he's lost his mind https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4378830-Excerpts-From-Private-WikiLeaks-Twitter-Group.html https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4378830-Excerpts-Fro...

idlewords 8y ago

He lives in a diplomatic compound that he is free to leave at any moment. He's gone without trial by choice. The real victims here are the poor Ecuadoran diplomatic staff, and his ex-cat. Oh, and his victims, of course.

rishav_sharan 8y ago
What victims?
- Kiro 8y ago
  His rape victims.
  - polotics 8y ago
    This has been disproven, so: citation needed, please...
    - rmc 8y ago
      No it hasn't, there hasn't been a trial. That's kinda the whole point of him being in the embassy.
      - dragonwriter 8y ago
        Well, the recent immediate point of him being in the trial is avoiding the British bail jumping charges from his flight to the embassy to evade the extradition on the rape charges; the extradition is no longer active.
        gcthomas 8y ago
        But it could become active again very quickly while he is held by the UK authorities. The rape case is still open afaik.
      - black-tea 8y ago
        In Britain, people are innocent until proven guilty.
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xcppa 8y ago
Pulling out the chloroform jar?
ryanlol 8y ago
>He lives in a diplomatic compound that he is free to leave at any moment He will be arrested if he leaves. How is that particularly different from say HMP Prescoed?

7e 8y ago

Or from cowardly refusing to face his trial.

belorn 8y ago
On the 20 August 2010 the police got the report and on the same day the duty prosecutor got the information. On 30 August, Assange was questioned by the Stockholm police On 1 September 2010, Överåklagare Marianne Ny decided to resume the preliminary investigation. On 27 September 2010 assange left the country, now a month after he had been at the police. On 18 November 2010, Marianne Ny ordered the detention. Now that sound like a person running from their crime. Its the most slow motion running of any reported case to reach the news. I also must applaud the Swedish legal system for effective and swift action, in particular for reaching a conclusion three months after the initial investigation when no new facts had been established. If only the prosecutor had reached the decision from the beginning, rather than wait until the accused leave the country, wait a bit longer and then order the detention. Did I mention rape cases are about the second highest prioritized crime in Sweden, next after murder? There were no murder spree between 20 August 2010 and 18 November 2010.
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erinyesita 8y ago

It’s disingenuous to imply he’s being held against his will in violation of his human rights when in fact the UK government has gone to great lengths to get him to show up to a criminal investigation, and his appeals in the courts were entirely ordinary.

geowwy 8y ago
In effect he is being held against his will, since he will almost definitely be extradited if he leaves the embassy.
- lsh 8y ago
  No, he really isn't. But he will almost definitely be extradited the moment he lives the embassy. It might be a refugee situation, fleeing the US in fear of his life, but he's from Australia..
  - geowwy 8y ago
    His choice is either stay in the embassy or extradition to the US where he will face a very severe penalties, possibly the death sentence. Technically he's not being held against his will. But the reality is he can't leave.
    - viraptor 8y ago
      > possibly the death sentence. What? Is there any reasonable source claiming that's remotely possible?
      - newnewpdro 8y ago
        https://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/01/11/assange_death_penalty/ https://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/01/11/assange_death_penal... Penalties have gone pretty sideways in the US when it comes to being associated with terrorism, and what qualifies as terrorism extremely broad and nebulous.