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hype maybe? Got a backroom deal for the exposure? Oh, and you probably aren't netflix either. But they have a pretty severe case of vendor lock in now, will

hype maybe? Got a backroom deal for the exposure? Oh, and you probably aren't netflix either. But they have a pretty severe case of vendor lock in now, will be interesting to see how it plays out. As of 2018 they spend 40 million on cloud services, 23 million of that on aws. Do you think you are gonna get AWS's attention with that $10 s3 instance when something goes wrong?!? You will have negative leverage after signing up for vendor lock in. I'll take linux servers any day, thanks.

scarface74 8y ago
So you think Netflix was suckered into using AWS and if they had just listened to random people on HN they would have made different choices? I’m sure with all of your developers using the repository pattern to “abstract their database access”, you can change your database at the drop of a dime. Companies rarely change infrastructure wholesale no matter how many levels of abstraction you put in front of your resources. While at the same time you’re spending money maintaining hardware instead of focusing on your business’s competitive advantage.
- hackerpacker 8y ago
  so, you might be dealing with some half/truths here. Netflix does NOT use aws for their meat and potatoes streaming, just the housekeeping. They use OWS for the heavy lifting. https://www.networkworld.com/article/3037428/netflix-is-not-really-all-in-on-amazon-s-cloud.html https://www.networkworld.com/article/3037428/netflix-is-not-... But re: maintaining hardware, I only maintain my dev box these days. We are fine with hosted linux services, but backup/monitoring/updating is just too trivial, and the hosting so affordable (and predictable) w/linux it would have to be a hype/marketing/nepotic decision to switch to aws in our case. The internet is still built on a backbone and run by linux, any programmer would be foolhardy to ignore that bit of reality for very long.
  - scarface74 8y ago
    So what do you think AWS services are running on if not Linux? Netflix is by far AWSs largest customer. From the horses mouth on why they decided to move to AWS: https://www.se-radio.net/2014/12/episode-216-adrian-cockcroft-on-the-modern-cloud-based-platform/ https://www.se-radio.net/2014/12/episode-216-adrian-cockcrof... You could also go to YouTube and watch any of the dozens of talks NetFlix has done at ReInvent. Of course Netflix caches it’s videos in the ISPs data center. But caching is not the “heavy lifting”.
aaronblohowiak 8y ago
Please do not spread falsehoods.

scarface74 8y ago

So you think Netflix was suckered into using AWS and if they had just listened to random people on HN they would have made different choices? I’m sure with all of your developers using the repository pattern to “abstract their database access”, you can change your database at the drop of a dime. Companies rarely change infrastructure wholesale no matter how many levels of abstraction you put in front of your resources. While at the same time you’re spending money maintaining hardware instead of focusing on your business’s competitive advantage.

hackerpacker 8y ago
so, you might be dealing with some half/truths here. Netflix does NOT use aws for their meat and potatoes streaming, just the housekeeping. They use OWS for the heavy lifting. https://www.networkworld.com/article/3037428/netflix-is-not-really-all-in-on-amazon-s-cloud.html https://www.networkworld.com/article/3037428/netflix-is-not-... But re: maintaining hardware, I only maintain my dev box these days. We are fine with hosted linux services, but backup/monitoring/updating is just too trivial, and the hosting so affordable (and predictable) w/linux it would have to be a hype/marketing/nepotic decision to switch to aws in our case. The internet is still built on a backbone and run by linux, any programmer would be foolhardy to ignore that bit of reality for very long.
- scarface74 8y ago
  So what do you think AWS services are running on if not Linux? Netflix is by far AWSs largest customer. From the horses mouth on why they decided to move to AWS: https://www.se-radio.net/2014/12/episode-216-adrian-cockcroft-on-the-modern-cloud-based-platform/ https://www.se-radio.net/2014/12/episode-216-adrian-cockcrof... You could also go to YouTube and watch any of the dozens of talks NetFlix has done at ReInvent. Of course Netflix caches it’s videos in the ISPs data center. But caching is not the “heavy lifting”.

aaronblohowiak 8y ago

Please do not spread falsehoods.