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What browser would you suggest instead? I feel a bit cornered, especially now that literally every alternative is based on chromium.
by Lowkeyloki 8y ago
What browser would you suggest instead? I feel a bit cornered, especially now that literally every alternative is based on chromium.
- woah 8y agoBrave seems ok, has a pretty good built in adblocker
- vpzom 8y agostill chromium
- asfgoinionio 8y agoThey're remarkably scummy. They swapped out advertisements for a cryptocurrency scam. Maybe the browser itself is OK. I've never used it.
- who_what_why 8y agoHow's the browser a scam? I use it and enjoy it. I think their business model is the most egalitarian business model amongst all browsers.
- jasonlotito 8y agoThe collect money on someone's behalf, without that person knowing. It's a scam. It would be like me taking money on behalf of you. Only I wouldn't tell you. And now someone thinks they are paying you by going through me. Seems like a scam.
- atomical 8y agoBlocking ads and depriving publishers of income is a scam. You are stealing from content creators. BAT gives more revenue to content creators than Google ever would.
- yoasif_ 8y ago> Blocking ads and depriving publishers of income is a scam. But this is literally what Brave does by default.
- thekyle 8y agoI'm not trying to take sides in this but here is a relevant thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18734999 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18734999
- sanxiyn 8y agoYou can use Brave without caring about cryptocurrency at all.
- aphextron 8y agoGood question. Other than Firefox, Webkit/Blink based browsers are pretty much the only thing usable on the modern web without crashing. That leaves ungoogled Chromium, which unless you're compiling it yourself (good luck) means just blindly trusting some random internet person for binaries. There's really no good answer at this point.
- hollerith 8y agoWorse: even if the person (or organization) providing the binary is well-meaning, they would need some serious resources (mostly programmers) to provide security updates quickly enough. The least resource-intensive way to provide attack-resistance near the level provided by Google's Chrome team would probably be to notify the user when a vulnerability is disclosed so that the user can either switch to Chrome or restrict their browsing to safe sites till the binary provider can get a security update out. I know of no one doing that or providing timely security updates however except Google, possibly Opera, possibly Brave and probably some day soon Microsoft.
- narag 8y agoWhat's wrong with Chromium? It's a honest question. I understand you'd say that about Chrome, but I thought that Chromium being open source it isn't exactly in the same bag.
- gowld 8y agoWhat's wrong with chromium?
- sanxiyn 8y agoChromium phones home, hard.
- geowwy 8y agoThis site suggests IceCat, Ungoogled Chromium, Iridium or Pale Moon: https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/browsers.html https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/browsers.html The also have a guide for enhancing privacy in Firefox
- atomical 8y agoThere's also Brave browser.
- jasonlotito 8y agoNo. Brave is collecting money on people's behalf without their consent.
- atomical 8y agoMost of the BAT being donated is coming directly from the User Growth Pool. Do you block ads without the publisher's consent? If so, you are in a much more morally precarious situation.
- protomyth 8y agoAfter this discussion, I would think very hard before using Pale Moon https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19410928 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19410928
- Lowkeyloki 8y agoI would consider IceCat, but it looks like development has fallen behind Firefox considerably. I mean no offense by this but I consider myself a privacy wonk and that website is a bit too tin foil hat even for me. I think we're in a bad way as far as choices go for browsers these days, but Firefox seems like the best of a bad situation to me. If people are still concerned, they should take a look at the changes made to Firefox for the Tor browser.
- who_what_why 8y agoBrave. And what's wrong with Chromium?
- ripdog 8y agoIt reinforces Google's control of the internet, and helps convince webmasters that the only browser they need to test for is Chrome.
- who_what_why 8y agoChromium is open source much like Android and Linux are open source.
- kylek 8y agoI don't think anyone has mentioned Opera yet. Why? It's quite a bit snappier than FF imo, and has extensions like uBlock Origin/HTTPS Everywhere/Privacy Badger available (and the ability to install Chrome extensions). Edit: I know it's chromium-based, but still wondering!
- detaro 8y agoGoing to a closed-source browser owned by a big chinese company because you're worried about Mozilla's open source browser seems like a hard sell.
- random878 8y agoI like Icecat (annoyingly not in the Debian repos). I've also started to make use of text browsers. Links and Links2 are two that I use. Links2 is a nice halfway option as it will support images too. I find them great for websites where I want to read info, but the interface is ironically designed to make that harder than it should be. News sites are a perfect example. Text browsers turn them from bloated billboards back into a readable format.