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I’m talking about EV’s in general, Honda Clarity is another decent example. If your car always starts each day with 250 miles range, stopping to charge outside

I’m talking about EV’s in general, Honda Clarity is another decent example. If your car always starts each day with 250 miles range, stopping to charge outside of the house is a rare ocurrence. Having a break for 20 minutes rather than 5 minutes after 3 hours of driving, a handful of times each year, isn’t my idea of a dealbreaker. The big problem as I say is the extent of the network, especially in rural areas. Most of the adoption over the next 5-10 years will likely be in cities and suburbs.

dragontamer 8y ago
Depends. My family always stops at a particular location in Virginia whenever we travel south (or back north) on vacations. Its literally a family tradition. There's no Supercharger close by, but plenty of gas stations. To go pure electric would mean giving up this yearly family tradition for our summer road-trips. We'd have to change the stop to fit the car (ie: find a new spot closer to a supercharger). That's definitely not worth the hassle. -------- We stop for 30+ minutes by the way for food and mental breaks while driving. But the LOCATION we stop at could be a national park, a mall, little towns we've grown to love, etc. etc. A few of those locations DO have superchargers. But the majority of them do NOT. As such, a pure electric car would force us to give up family road-trip traditions. > I’m talking about EV’s in general, Honda Clarity is another decent example. Honda Clarity has 47 mile all-electric range, and 300-mile range on the gas generator. It can perpetually exist on gasoline. But typical day trips to and from work can likely be within the all-electric range. It won't go onto gas-generator mode unless the battery gets low. Something like this vehicle would work for my family.
- Brakenshire 8y ago
  Yeah, I see your point, this is I suppose about what is called the destination charger network. This is a last mile situation with a lot of capital needed to build out a full network, which will make it more difficult for Tesla when competing with open standard charging networks. In Europe it looks a lot better, because the model 3 can use any CCS charger. I think we’ll end up with a few percentage points of all parking spots having 10-50kW chargers, especially for places where people tend to stop off on journeys. It’s starting to happen, but is a long way off what’s needed. It will be a lot easier in some places than others because of geography and population density. In some places plug in hybrids will undoubtedly be an important part of the market for a long time. Where I am, 300 miles will get you almost across the country, so it’s a different calculation from yours!

dragontamer 8y ago

Depends. My family always stops at a particular location in Virginia whenever we travel south (or back north) on vacations. Its literally a family tradition. There's no Supercharger close by, but plenty of gas stations. To go pure electric would mean giving up this yearly family tradition for our summer road-trips. We'd have to change the stop to fit the car (ie: find a new spot closer to a supercharger). That's definitely not worth the hassle. -------- We stop for 30+ minutes by the way for food and mental breaks while driving. But the LOCATION we stop at could be a national park, a mall, little towns we've grown to love, etc. etc. A few of those locations DO have superchargers. But the majority of them do NOT. As such, a pure electric car would force us to give up family road-trip traditions. > I’m talking about EV’s in general, Honda Clarity is another decent example. Honda Clarity has 47 mile all-electric range, and 300-mile range on the gas generator. It can perpetually exist on gasoline. But typical day trips to and from work can likely be within the all-electric range. It won't go onto gas-generator mode unless the battery gets low. Something like this vehicle would work for my family.

Brakenshire 8y ago
Yeah, I see your point, this is I suppose about what is called the destination charger network. This is a last mile situation with a lot of capital needed to build out a full network, which will make it more difficult for Tesla when competing with open standard charging networks. In Europe it looks a lot better, because the model 3 can use any CCS charger. I think we’ll end up with a few percentage points of all parking spots having 10-50kW chargers, especially for places where people tend to stop off on journeys. It’s starting to happen, but is a long way off what’s needed. It will be a lot easier in some places than others because of geography and population density. In some places plug in hybrids will undoubtedly be an important part of the market for a long time. Where I am, 300 miles will get you almost across the country, so it’s a different calculation from yours!