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It appears they just grew apart, rather than a surprise to either party.

by Aloha 8y ago

cjbprime 8y ago
Wait, wasn't the surprise that either the Saudis (reportedly) hacked his phone (or maybe her brother found them), found out that he was having an affair, sent the sexts to the National Enquirer who reported on them, making the affair's existence known to her?
- simonh 8y ago
  No, they were already separated.
magic_beans 8y ago
"Grew apart" Is that code for "Bezos had an affair"
- paxys 8y ago
  Is it an affair if you are already separated?
  - ceejayoz 8y ago
    In some states, yes. https://info.legalzoom.com/can-married-men-legally-separated-date-committing-adultery-21168.html https://info.legalzoom.com/can-married-men-legally-separated... > In some states, adultery is a crime, although it is rarely prosecuted. In states that still recognize fault-based divorces, adultery has more of an impact. If a man begins dating during a legal separation in one of these states, and if his wife can prove that the relationship is sexual in nature, she can usually file for divorce on grounds of adultery. This can affect issues of property distribution and alimony. However, some states, such as North Carolina, make a legal distinction between dating during separation and dating while living together as man and wife.
    - dpark 8y ago
      “Affair” is not a legal term in any US state so far as I’m aware.
      - ceejayoz 8y ago
        Adultery is, though. Which an affair is likely to include, and this one apparently did.
        dpark 8y ago
        Bezos lives in Washington. Adultery is not a crime in Washington nor is it recognized as relevant in divorce proceedings. i.e. Washington is a “no fault” state. Caveat: I’m not a lawyer.
        ceejayoz 8y ago
        Hence, "in some states". It's entirely possible some form of pre/post-nuptial agreement exists, as well.
  - bhnmmhmd 8y ago
    "We Were On A Break." Guess that's just excuse for doing what you want before officially ending things with your current wife/spouse/gf.
ancorevard 8y ago
"grew apart" is a not how reality works. A relationship by nature "disintegrates" if you don't work hard to sustain it. But you are right that no one should be surprised, the outcome is as predictable as gravity and is bound by the same natural laws.
- dvtrn 8y ago
  "grew apart" is a not how reality works. A relationship by nature "disintegrates" if you don't work hard to sustain it. This seems incredibly narrow-minded, it is 100% possible for a couple to realize their dynamic as two people just doesn't work as well in a romantic relationship as it does platonically, and if both parties are emotionally mature enough with it, they can absolutely part ways and still maintain a healthy ordinary friendship post courting. Asserting that such a phenomenon isn't "how reality works" seems like a weird projection of whatever personal expectations and hang-ups you have about how relationships work.
  - zaroth 8y ago
    An ideal can be aspired to, while the reality for the vast majority of couples can still be quite messy. More importantly, please state your disagreeing opinion without the condescending personal attack smacked on.
    - dvtrn 8y ago
      It absolutely "can" be but that's wholly separate from making an declarative statement about what reality "is" for people who chose to terminate their romantic relationships or why. And sorry if you feel that was a "personal attack" because I posited that such an arbitrary and unsubstantiated declaration about the reality of relationships might be coming from a mindset that doesn't give attention to the nuances and idiosyncrasies of relationships or the decisions individuals make in them.
  - ancorevard 8y ago
    "Growing apart" is not something that _happens_ to an intimate relationship such as a marriage, it is the natural consequence of the priorities of the two individuals involved. To stay intimate with another requires an enormous amount of investment of both parties. So yes, growing apart does take place, but it is the effect not the cause.

It appears they just grew apart, rather than a surprise to either party.

by Aloha 8y ago

It appears they just grew apart, rather than a surprise to either party.

Wait, wasn't the surprise that either the Saudis (reportedly) hacked his phone (or maybe her brother found them), found out that he was having an affair, sent the sexts to the National Enquirer who reported on them, making the affair's existence known to her?

simonh 8y ago
No, they were already separated.

magic_beans 8y ago

"Grew apart" Is that code for "Bezos had an affair"

paxys 8y ago
Is it an affair if you are already separated?
- ceejayoz 8y ago
  In some states, yes. https://info.legalzoom.com/can-married-men-legally-separated-date-committing-adultery-21168.html https://info.legalzoom.com/can-married-men-legally-separated... > In some states, adultery is a crime, although it is rarely prosecuted. In states that still recognize fault-based divorces, adultery has more of an impact. If a man begins dating during a legal separation in one of these states, and if his wife can prove that the relationship is sexual in nature, she can usually file for divorce on grounds of adultery. This can affect issues of property distribution and alimony. However, some states, such as North Carolina, make a legal distinction between dating during separation and dating while living together as man and wife.
  - dpark 8y ago
    “Affair” is not a legal term in any US state so far as I’m aware.
    - ceejayoz 8y ago
      Adultery is, though. Which an affair is likely to include, and this one apparently did.
      - dpark 8y ago
        Bezos lives in Washington. Adultery is not a crime in Washington nor is it recognized as relevant in divorce proceedings. i.e. Washington is a “no fault” state. Caveat: I’m not a lawyer.
        ceejayoz 8y ago
        Hence, "in some states". It's entirely possible some form of pre/post-nuptial agreement exists, as well.
- bhnmmhmd 8y ago
  "We Were On A Break." Guess that's just excuse for doing what you want before officially ending things with your current wife/spouse/gf.

ancorevard 8y ago

"grew apart" is a not how reality works. A relationship by nature "disintegrates" if you don't work hard to sustain it. But you are right that no one should be surprised, the outcome is as predictable as gravity and is bound by the same natural laws.

dvtrn 8y ago
"grew apart" is a not how reality works. A relationship by nature "disintegrates" if you don't work hard to sustain it. This seems incredibly narrow-minded, it is 100% possible for a couple to realize their dynamic as two people just doesn't work as well in a romantic relationship as it does platonically, and if both parties are emotionally mature enough with it, they can absolutely part ways and still maintain a healthy ordinary friendship post courting. Asserting that such a phenomenon isn't "how reality works" seems like a weird projection of whatever personal expectations and hang-ups you have about how relationships work.
- zaroth 8y ago
  An ideal can be aspired to, while the reality for the vast majority of couples can still be quite messy. More importantly, please state your disagreeing opinion without the condescending personal attack smacked on.
  - dvtrn 8y ago
    It absolutely "can" be but that's wholly separate from making an declarative statement about what reality "is" for people who chose to terminate their romantic relationships or why. And sorry if you feel that was a "personal attack" because I posited that such an arbitrary and unsubstantiated declaration about the reality of relationships might be coming from a mindset that doesn't give attention to the nuances and idiosyncrasies of relationships or the decisions individuals make in them.
- ancorevard 8y ago
  "Growing apart" is not something that _happens_ to an intimate relationship such as a marriage, it is the natural consequence of the priorities of the two individuals involved. To stay intimate with another requires an enormous amount of investment of both parties. So yes, growing apart does take place, but it is the effect not the cause.