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Found the Caltech student! Jokes aside, why not include MIT or UChicago? The former is arguably a bigger Caltech, and the latter is extremely rigorous, even if

by alehul 8y ago

Found the Caltech student! Jokes aside, why not include MIT or UChicago? The former is arguably a bigger Caltech, and the latter is extremely rigorous, even if not focused on engineering.

thaumasiotes 8y ago
> Jokes aside, why not include MIT or UChicago? ...How many schools do you think can fit in the #1 spot?
- alehul 8y ago
  Touché! I suppose I'm partially criticizing the idea of a #1, but that aside, there's a fair point to be made that MIT would beat a smaller version of it on any nominal measurement rather than per-capita. Additionally, if you want to learn something academic that isn't technology, I'm not sure MIT or Caltech would win (or even be applicable), hence UChicago as a possibility for a general "best at academics" university.
  - thaumasiotes 8y ago
    If you want to learn something, top-tier universities aren't much better than many other options. They're top-tier by virtue of the glory they borrow from their students. We judge the "eliteness" of a school by what you can predict about an individual by the fact that they were admitted there. And by that measure, Caltech is significantly outperforming in "academics".
    - alehul 8y ago
      > If you want to learn something, top-tier universities aren't much better than many other options. Very true. In fact, at colleges like Harvard and Columbia, higher grades are often easier to achieve than at the mid-tiers like Boston University and NYU. With that said, there are colleges that force you to absorb copious amounts of information and fail you otherwise. UChicago is known for this. Is that not symbolic of being top in "academic excellence?". What you're implying seems more like the "prestige" category, in which Harvard was mentioned as the winner above. All of this aside the point, this doesn't explain how Caltech would be #1 in academic excellence for a college, above UChicago, and Caltech's larger equivalent, MIT.

by alehul 8y ago

Found the Caltech student! Jokes aside, why not include MIT or UChicago? The former is arguably a bigger Caltech, and the latter is extremely rigorous, even if not focused on engineering.

thaumasiotes 8y ago

> Jokes aside, why not include MIT or UChicago? ...How many schools do you think can fit in the #1 spot?

alehul 8y ago
Touché! I suppose I'm partially criticizing the idea of a #1, but that aside, there's a fair point to be made that MIT would beat a smaller version of it on any nominal measurement rather than per-capita. Additionally, if you want to learn something academic that isn't technology, I'm not sure MIT or Caltech would win (or even be applicable), hence UChicago as a possibility for a general "best at academics" university.
- thaumasiotes 8y ago
  If you want to learn something, top-tier universities aren't much better than many other options. They're top-tier by virtue of the glory they borrow from their students. We judge the "eliteness" of a school by what you can predict about an individual by the fact that they were admitted there. And by that measure, Caltech is significantly outperforming in "academics".
  - alehul 8y ago
    > If you want to learn something, top-tier universities aren't much better than many other options. Very true. In fact, at colleges like Harvard and Columbia, higher grades are often easier to achieve than at the mid-tiers like Boston University and NYU. With that said, there are colleges that force you to absorb copious amounts of information and fail you otherwise. UChicago is known for this. Is that not symbolic of being top in "academic excellence?". What you're implying seems more like the "prestige" category, in which Harvard was mentioned as the winner above. All of this aside the point, this doesn't explain how Caltech would be #1 in academic excellence for a college, above UChicago, and Caltech's larger equivalent, MIT.