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I read HN, drive a Jeep Grand Cherokee, and short Tesla.

sjwright 8y ago
You’re being sarcastic, right? What is the signal you’re trying to send by admitting to choosing one of the most unreliable car brands on the market?
- karpodiem 8y ago
  I live in Detroit and buy a vehicle that's produced at Jefferson and Connor, five miles from where I live. I feel good about that. The 3.6L V6 / and ZF eight speed transmission are battle tested - we're five years into the current Grand Cherokee iteration, they've mostly worked out the issues. The volume of TSBs (technical service bulletins - http://wk2jeeps.com/wk2_tsb.htm http://wk2jeeps.com/wk2_tsb.htm) are way lower vs. the launch model year. I haven't had any quality issues, although it's early. I would never buy the first (and maybe even second) model year for any OEM, but especially FCA - that part I would agree with. Wait until year three.
  - philwelch 8y ago
    > battle tested Interesting choice of words, considering that the trucks used as technicals [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technical_(vehicle) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technical_(vehicle)] in actual battle tend to be Toyotas.
- rifung 8y ago
  > You’re being sarcastic, right? What is the signal you’re trying to send by admitting to choosing one of the most unreliable car brands on the market? Your statement is pretty closed minded. What if they just like the car enough they're willing to put up with the unreliability? That's like suggesting people who buy new cars are all idiots because the depreciation is much worse. Different people are allowed to have different priorities and tastes.
  - stcredzero 8y ago
    Nope. We're all supposed to have the priorities and tastes the news tells us to.
    - SEJeff 8y ago
      >> The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - George Orwell, 1984
- gamblor956 8y ago
  What is the signal you’re trying to send by admitting to choosing one of the most unreliable car brands on the market? People in glass cars shouldn't throw stones... Have you seen the Tesla reliability reports? (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/10/24/tesla-reliability-tumbles-consumer-reports-survey/1748024002/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/10/24/tesla-...) They're even worse than Jeep's reliability reports, and Jeep's excuse is that they make cars for off-roading and other extreme activities that place heavier demands on the car's parts and frame. Tesla makes...road cars.
jtx22 8y ago
Admit it, you don't read anything; you just look at the pictures.
- creaghpatr 8y ago
  I read HN for the articles I swear!
- karpodiem 8y ago
  I've got some 'Best of HN' comment sections printed out and stuffed underneath the mattress.

You’re being sarcastic, right? What is the signal you’re trying to send by admitting to choosing one of the most unreliable car brands on the market?

karpodiem 8y ago
I live in Detroit and buy a vehicle that's produced at Jefferson and Connor, five miles from where I live. I feel good about that. The 3.6L V6 / and ZF eight speed transmission are battle tested - we're five years into the current Grand Cherokee iteration, they've mostly worked out the issues. The volume of TSBs (technical service bulletins - http://wk2jeeps.com/wk2_tsb.htm http://wk2jeeps.com/wk2_tsb.htm) are way lower vs. the launch model year. I haven't had any quality issues, although it's early. I would never buy the first (and maybe even second) model year for any OEM, but especially FCA - that part I would agree with. Wait until year three.
- philwelch 8y ago
  > battle tested Interesting choice of words, considering that the trucks used as technicals [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technical_(vehicle) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technical_(vehicle)] in actual battle tend to be Toyotas.
rifung 8y ago
> You’re being sarcastic, right? What is the signal you’re trying to send by admitting to choosing one of the most unreliable car brands on the market? Your statement is pretty closed minded. What if they just like the car enough they're willing to put up with the unreliability? That's like suggesting people who buy new cars are all idiots because the depreciation is much worse. Different people are allowed to have different priorities and tastes.
- stcredzero 8y ago
  Nope. We're all supposed to have the priorities and tastes the news tells us to.
  - SEJeff 8y ago
    >> The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - George Orwell, 1984
gamblor956 8y ago
What is the signal you’re trying to send by admitting to choosing one of the most unreliable car brands on the market? People in glass cars shouldn't throw stones... Have you seen the Tesla reliability reports? (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/10/24/tesla-reliability-tumbles-consumer-reports-survey/1748024002/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/10/24/tesla-...) They're even worse than Jeep's reliability reports, and Jeep's excuse is that they make cars for off-roading and other extreme activities that place heavier demands on the car's parts and frame. Tesla makes...road cars.

jtx22 8y ago

Admit it, you don't read anything; you just look at the pictures.

creaghpatr 8y ago
I read HN for the articles I swear!
karpodiem 8y ago
I've got some 'Best of HN' comment sections printed out and stuffed underneath the mattress.