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Teslas are superior, not inferior. It's simple physics, BEV means higher acceleration, lower center of gravity, better cabin volume, quieter, and most important

Teslas are superior, not inferior. It's simple physics, BEV means higher acceleration, lower center of gravity, better cabin volume, quieter, and most importantly: you don't contribute nearly as much to destroying the climate or causing asthma and emphysema in children. How do you counter these basic BEV advantages? Are you in favor of releasing emissions for thousands of years?

skellera 8y ago
Obviously they were speaking in terms of luxury. No need for the loaded question.
_Microft 8y ago
The quality of the interior, not the technical part, is said to be pretty low for the price class that the Model S or X are in.
frontloadpro 8y ago
This is a Strawman comment, from an uneducated car buyer. There are plenty of higher quality electric vehicles. The acceleration is one tiny aspect of customer satisfaction. Tesla has worst in class interiors and reliability. Not having buttons or trays is something only Tesla can get away with. Is it better for the environment to buy a used car? Or better for the environment to buy a new car?
- CydeWeys 8y ago
  Just to let you know, you've now called anyone who disagrees with your opinion "uneducated" multiple times. This really rubs me the wrong way. You need to realize that other people have different priorities than you do. Not everyone cares that their car be as luxury as possible. They just want a good electric vehicle, and there's nothing that beats the Model 3 at that price point -- not in range and not in performance. Yeah, maybe it doesn't have leather seats as nice as the BMW, but most people don't prioritize surface-level luxury above all else, and especially not hardware/car nerds.
  - Domenic_S 8y ago
    FWIW i've owned 3 BMWs and a 2018 Mercedes and I much prefer the seats -- both from a comfort and materials perspective -- in my Model 3 (2nd gen seats).
- goshx 8y ago
  For someone claiming to be so educated, how can you make so many false statements? Perhaps you should have a personal experience with them before going around just repeating what you read somewhere or from your imagination.
LoSboccacc 8y ago
none of that makes a car superior. true that performance matters, but only up to a point, then it's interior space and organization, build quality, comfort, accessibility and why not boot space.
piokoch 8y ago
You are right. The problem is that it is not perception of luxury car buyer. First of all Tesla does not have luxury car design, interior does not look as flashy as the one from competition. In addition someone who typically buys top Mercedes model that uses 15 liters of gasoline per 100 kilometers every 3 years, buys new iPhone every two years, flyes 5 times a year to spend holidays in a beautiful but distant locations simple does not give a crap about climate changes. That is obviously such person is very pro-eco and wants to fight climate changes (verbally) and even donates some anti global warming foundation and advocates strict CO emission regulations (especially in developing countries) but the last thing such person would do is to restrict its own consumption.
chronic7s92 8y ago
> you don't contribute nearly as much to destroying the climate or causing asthma and emphysema in children. Slow down there. Not everyone cares about climate change. The _only_ reason I got a Tesla was for the acceleration and social status. With the Model 3, status has been diluted. Is climate change happening and being accelerated by humans? Yes. Do I care? No. I'm actually selling my P3D and switching to a Porsche 911 because of the Tesla brand dilution. Disclaimer: I work at Google.

skellera 8y ago

Obviously they were speaking in terms of luxury. No need for the loaded question.

_Microft 8y ago

The quality of the interior, not the technical part, is said to be pretty low for the price class that the Model S or X are in.

frontloadpro 8y ago

This is a Strawman comment, from an uneducated car buyer. There are plenty of higher quality electric vehicles. The acceleration is one tiny aspect of customer satisfaction. Tesla has worst in class interiors and reliability. Not having buttons or trays is something only Tesla can get away with. Is it better for the environment to buy a used car? Or better for the environment to buy a new car?

CydeWeys 8y ago
Just to let you know, you've now called anyone who disagrees with your opinion "uneducated" multiple times. This really rubs me the wrong way. You need to realize that other people have different priorities than you do. Not everyone cares that their car be as luxury as possible. They just want a good electric vehicle, and there's nothing that beats the Model 3 at that price point -- not in range and not in performance. Yeah, maybe it doesn't have leather seats as nice as the BMW, but most people don't prioritize surface-level luxury above all else, and especially not hardware/car nerds.
- Domenic_S 8y ago
  FWIW i've owned 3 BMWs and a 2018 Mercedes and I much prefer the seats -- both from a comfort and materials perspective -- in my Model 3 (2nd gen seats).
goshx 8y ago
For someone claiming to be so educated, how can you make so many false statements? Perhaps you should have a personal experience with them before going around just repeating what you read somewhere or from your imagination.

LoSboccacc 8y ago

none of that makes a car superior. true that performance matters, but only up to a point, then it's interior space and organization, build quality, comfort, accessibility and why not boot space.

piokoch 8y ago

You are right. The problem is that it is not perception of luxury car buyer. First of all Tesla does not have luxury car design, interior does not look as flashy as the one from competition. In addition someone who typically buys top Mercedes model that uses 15 liters of gasoline per 100 kilometers every 3 years, buys new iPhone every two years, flyes 5 times a year to spend holidays in a beautiful but distant locations simple does not give a crap about climate changes. That is obviously such person is very pro-eco and wants to fight climate changes (verbally) and even donates some anti global warming foundation and advocates strict CO emission regulations (especially in developing countries) but the last thing such person would do is to restrict its own consumption.

chronic7s92 8y ago

> you don't contribute nearly as much to destroying the climate or causing asthma and emphysema in children. Slow down there. Not everyone cares about climate change. The _only_ reason I got a Tesla was for the acceleration and social status. With the Model 3, status has been diluted. Is climate change happening and being accelerated by humans? Yes. Do I care? No. I'm actually selling my P3D and switching to a Porsche 911 because of the Tesla brand dilution. Disclaimer: I work at Google.