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"Why is Tesla so incompetent when it comes to logistics when other do not have these issues?" Rapid expansion? I can't think of another car company doing nearl
by Reason077 8y ago
"Why is Tesla so incompetent when it comes to logistics when other do not have these issues?"
Rapid expansion? I can't think of another car company doing nearly 400% year-on-year sales growth like Tesla has.
- sschueller 8y agoBut how do you not plan for that? It's not that people are waiting for non existing cars. They are waiting for cars that have been produced and are sitting in lots and ship yards.
- Reason077 8y agoWhile these bad experiences reflect poorly on Tesla and shouldn't happen, I don't think they are normal. It seems like most people are not waiting very long in Europe and have a smooth delivery experience. Norwegian YouTuber Bjorn Nyland ordered a performance Model 3 and got it in 8 days. (The cars stored in the parking lot you linked to are clearly used inventory: probably trade-ins. Not new Model 3s.)
- youngtaff 8y agoRepairs in Europe seem a mess - a friend had to wait months for a replacement windscreen
- leesec 8y agoRemember how the last U.S. car company to make it to mass production was over 100 years ago? Scaling up cars is really, really hard. It is not software.
- jdhn 8y agoWhile scaling up is hard, it's not like the expertise to scale up doesn't exist. The auto industry is pretty established, and I'm sure that there are companies and/or consultants that could help Tesla out.
- leesec 8y agoAny operation of this size is going to have a multitude of issues. There is literally no way to do this cleanly.
- jfoster 8y agoHad any other car company ever scaled up as rapidly as Tesla is?
- SEJeff 8y agoNo. The last "new" American car manufacturer was GM, which was founded September 16, 1908 in Flint, MI. "ha ha ha Tesla is so bad at logistics, they suck so much! Look how much better everyone else is!" Imagine how much better I'd be at literally anything if you gave me a > 100 year head start!
- philwelch 8y agoNot only do countries other than the United States exist, but many of them are considerably better at car manufacturing.
- SEJeff 8y agoSure, but the article is about a new American car company, and we are discussing problems with production ramp. People often use GM or Ford for comparison, and I'm pointing out the silliness. Most of the EU based car manufacturers are even older than GM / Ford.
- philwelch 8y agoMost Americans didn't own cars until a few years after the Second World War. So that's maybe 70 years ago, but let's give the car companies some credit because they already scaled up to produce war materiel about a decade previous. Volkswagen, though, started from 12,000 cars per year in 1946, which is remarkable in itself. Between 1949 and 1969, Toyota scaled from tens of thousands to millions of cars produced per year. That's 50 years ago. Kia manufactured 26 cars in 1986 and millions of cars per year today. That's 33 years ago. Tesla isn't doing something that hasn't been done in over a century, unless you're willing to pretend that the rest of the world doesn't exist and you're willing to round up "less than 80 years" to "more than 100 years".
- leesec 8y ago>unless you're willing to pretend that the rest of the world doesn't exist Well that's why I said U.S. car company...
- philwelch 8y agoBecause you're willing to pretend the rest of the world doesn't exist? There's no other point to qualifying it like that--manufacturing and logistics techniques from Japan or Korea or Germany or China still work when applied to the United States.