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Tesla appears to have huge logistical issues in Europe and else where. From the mess with the delivery of Rich's [1] Model X or one German Youtubers[2] Model 3.

Tesla appears to have huge logistical issues in Europe and else where. From the mess with the delivery of Rich's [1] Model X or one German Youtubers[2] Model 3. Here is a video of Tesla's pilling up in a mall parking garage [3] At this rate the company will not exist very long even if they make the best car. Why is Tesla so incompetent when it comes to logistics when others do not have these issues? Who is in charge? [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxSQuGeoug8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxSQuGeoug8 [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS5Q6iiQRgA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS5Q6iiQRgA [3] https://twitter.com/gupamf/status/1113283728640368646 https://twitter.com/gupamf/status/1113283728640368646

Reason077 8y ago
"Why is Tesla so incompetent when it comes to logistics when other do not have these issues?" Rapid expansion? I can't think of another car company doing nearly 400% year-on-year sales growth like Tesla has.
- sschueller 8y ago
  But how do you not plan for that? It's not that people are waiting for non existing cars. They are waiting for cars that have been produced and are sitting in lots and ship yards.
  - Reason077 8y ago
    While these bad experiences reflect poorly on Tesla and shouldn't happen, I don't think they are normal. It seems like most people are not waiting very long in Europe and have a smooth delivery experience. Norwegian YouTuber Bjorn Nyland ordered a performance Model 3 and got it in 8 days. (The cars stored in the parking lot you linked to are clearly used inventory: probably trade-ins. Not new Model 3s.)
    - youngtaff 8y ago
      Repairs in Europe seem a mess - a friend had to wait months for a replacement windscreen
  - leesec 8y ago
    Remember how the last U.S. car company to make it to mass production was over 100 years ago? Scaling up cars is really, really hard. It is not software.
    - jdhn 8y ago
      While scaling up is hard, it's not like the expertise to scale up doesn't exist. The auto industry is pretty established, and I'm sure that there are companies and/or consultants that could help Tesla out.
      - leesec 8y ago
        Any operation of this size is going to have a multitude of issues. There is literally no way to do this cleanly.
      - jfoster 8y ago
        Had any other car company ever scaled up as rapidly as Tesla is?
        SEJeff 8y ago
        No. The last "new" American car manufacturer was GM, which was founded September 16, 1908 in Flint, MI. "ha ha ha Tesla is so bad at logistics, they suck so much! Look how much better everyone else is!" Imagine how much better I'd be at literally anything if you gave me a > 100 year head start!
        philwelch 8y ago
        Not only do countries other than the United States exist, but many of them are considerably better at car manufacturing.
        SEJeff 8y ago
        Sure, but the article is about a new American car company, and we are discussing problems with production ramp. People often use GM or Ford for comparison, and I'm pointing out the silliness. Most of the EU based car manufacturers are even older than GM / Ford.
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Reason077 8y ago

"Why is Tesla so incompetent when it comes to logistics when other do not have these issues?" Rapid expansion? I can't think of another car company doing nearly 400% year-on-year sales growth like Tesla has.

sschueller 8y ago
But how do you not plan for that? It's not that people are waiting for non existing cars. They are waiting for cars that have been produced and are sitting in lots and ship yards.
- Reason077 8y ago
  While these bad experiences reflect poorly on Tesla and shouldn't happen, I don't think they are normal. It seems like most people are not waiting very long in Europe and have a smooth delivery experience. Norwegian YouTuber Bjorn Nyland ordered a performance Model 3 and got it in 8 days. (The cars stored in the parking lot you linked to are clearly used inventory: probably trade-ins. Not new Model 3s.)
  - youngtaff 8y ago
    Repairs in Europe seem a mess - a friend had to wait months for a replacement windscreen
- leesec 8y ago
  Remember how the last U.S. car company to make it to mass production was over 100 years ago? Scaling up cars is really, really hard. It is not software.
  - jdhn 8y ago
    While scaling up is hard, it's not like the expertise to scale up doesn't exist. The auto industry is pretty established, and I'm sure that there are companies and/or consultants that could help Tesla out.
    - leesec 8y ago
      Any operation of this size is going to have a multitude of issues. There is literally no way to do this cleanly.
    - jfoster 8y ago
      Had any other car company ever scaled up as rapidly as Tesla is?
      - SEJeff 8y ago
        No. The last "new" American car manufacturer was GM, which was founded September 16, 1908 in Flint, MI. "ha ha ha Tesla is so bad at logistics, they suck so much! Look how much better everyone else is!" Imagine how much better I'd be at literally anything if you gave me a > 100 year head start!
        philwelch 8y ago
        Not only do countries other than the United States exist, but many of them are considerably better at car manufacturing.
        SEJeff 8y ago
        Sure, but the article is about a new American car company, and we are discussing problems with production ramp. People often use GM or Ford for comparison, and I'm pointing out the silliness. Most of the EU based car manufacturers are even older than GM / Ford.

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