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So, I looked at Plesk's 404 Page
- jluxenberg 16y agoThis applies to Chrome as well, FYI.
- est 16y ago> jimrhoskins 13 points 6 hours ago[-] > Chrome does it too, FYI > permalink report reply http://www.reddit.com/comments/ee4zc/_/c17gc36 http://www.reddit.com/comments/ee4zc/_/c17gc36
- random42 16y agoSo, whats the reasoning behind it?
- pquerna 16y agoIts a well known 'feature' of Internet Explorer: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q294807 http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q294... Apache has had a work around for this since.. forever.
- jluxenberg 16y agoTo be more friendly to non-powerusers I suppose? Here's the Issue in Chromium's bug tracker: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1695 http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1695
- btn 16y agoShort messages are usually of the form "404 - File not Found". These are non-informative for many users ("what does it mean?"), don't give any recovery options ("what can I do now?"), and aren't localised.
- brc 16y agoI've seen this in countless webservers. I'm guessing it must be part of a server package or something because the wording is always the same.
- studer 16y agoResin (and possibly others): http://www.google.com/codesearch/p?hl=en#LjVQoypFBrg/modules/c/src/isapi_srun/protocol.cpp&l=170 http://www.google.com/codesearch/p?hl=en#LjVQoypFBrg/modules... And this has been around since forever. I feel old.
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- pilif 16y agoGood thing plesk added that additional comment. Because their error message is so much more informative than the default IE provides to help the user in case of uninformative error messages. Yes. That's really well done.
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- Semiapies 16y ago1) It's a 404 page. The main information here is "your link doesn't work". No detailed diagnostic is needed. 2) This default 404 page can be customized to match a site layout and styling and possibly have search boxes, etc. to help you find the page you were looking for. You even helpfully get a comment to let you know to keep your page code over 512 bytes.
- pilif 16y ago1) the IE default page gives additional information what could cause the problem and how to maybe fix it. And it is localized to the users language. As such IE's page is much better for a non-technical user and doesn't at all impede the technical user. 2) the moment that page gets customized with all that info you propose it will be longer than the 512 bytes at which point IE will not display its customized error page. Plesk's solution here does nothing but make life harder for non-techies (which admittedly don't use plesk) for no reason what so ever. The page served in the example is inferior to IE's page in all aspects. Hence my snarky comment
- Semiapies 16y ago1) Not all defaults are awesome. The issue here is that this is not even a site default, this is a default for a multi-website management program. And for that matter, if you leave the wrong settings unset on recent versions of IIS, this message won't go out anyway, since IIS will push its own default page for non-200 responses. 2) It's trivial to have a simple, CSS-based site layout that requires less than 512 bytes in the base HTML page. For a simple notice that this isn't a known page on the site, but here's a search form, you could easily still be under 512 bytes.
- smh 16y agoMicrosoft products are full of annoying features like this. Another example is Outlook and the way it removes arbitrary newlines from plain text emails. Also: http://www.fourmilab.ch/webtools/demoroniser/ http://www.fourmilab.ch/webtools/demoroniser/ Choice quote: Rule of thumb--every time Microsoft use the word "smart," be on the lookout for something dumb
- cabalamat 16y agoI think the reason for that is that their products are designed for PHBs not techies.
- RyanMcGreal 16y agoInstead of padding their 404 with a smarmy comment, they could have padded it with, you know, actually useful navigating tools for visitors.
- dhyasama 16y agoYour comment was like a bucket of cold water thrown in my face, snapping me out of my own smarminess in order to get back to doing something useful. Thanks.
- Semiapies 16y agoIt's a default page provided by web hosting management software. You use Plesk to manage multiple web sites, which may not be related to each other or even use similar backends (for instance, if you're a web host with multiple clients). The people managing the code and content of the site in question are responsible for customizing their error pages.
- RyanMcGreal 16y agoGood point. This makes more sense as a default 404 page.
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