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Absolutely, lets sweep the pandemic of knife crimes currently sweeping Europe - among a whole host of other related malaises and social evils too long to list h

Absolutely, lets sweep the pandemic of knife crimes currently sweeping Europe - among a whole host of other related malaises and social evils too long to list here - neatly under the rug and call it a day.[1] [2] [1] Ten charts on the rise of knife crime in England and Wales https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-42749089 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-42749089 [2] Germany: Stabbings and Knife Crimes at Record High https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/13802/germany-stabbings-knife-crimes https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/13802/germany-stabbings-k...

arethuza 8y ago
Note that the knife crime problem is in England and Wales not the entire UK and is pretty much due to a conscious decision by the then home secretary (now PM) to drastically reduce police numbers and change how they police.
tonyedgecombe 8y ago
UK homicide rate: 1.20 per 100,000 German homicide rate: 1.18 per 100,000 US homicide rate: 5.35 per 100,000 Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate#United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intention...
- wozniacki 8y ago
  Well would you care to clarify how well these fine folks are doing in various European capitals while youre at it? Surely they are neither inking poetry at tony cafes nor building businesses, now are they? [1][2][3] [1] Benefits Street S01E01 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqvsF2bBu4o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqvsF2bBu4o [2] The Streets of Paris https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1Js8wntdk4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1Js8wntdk4 [3] Only Two Men Convicted After 1,200 Sexual Assaults In Cologne (HBO) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl04r1OjRQs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl04r1OjRQs
  - fxj 8y ago
    Reason for the low convition rate [3]. The cameras were too bad: https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/koeln-silvester-justiz-101.html https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/koeln-silvester-justiz-101.... Perpetrators could hardly be identified In Cologne, the charges resulted in preliminary proceedings against 290 suspects and to date in 43 indictments against a total of 52 defendants; in addition, six orders of summary punishment were issued. According to the local court, six of the cases are still pending. But most of the proceedings deal with accusations such as theft, robbery or receiving stolen goods. The allegation of sexual coercion was made in only three proceedings against a total of six accused persons. The biggest difficulty for the investigators: Many of the suspected perpetrators of sexual assaults from New Year's Eve could only be identified with difficulty afterwards. The investigators evaluated more than 1000 hours of image material, for example from surveillance cameras. However, in most cases it was not possible to identify individual persons.
  - netsharc 8y ago
    To cite Benefits Street to say the whole of Europe is like that is like concluding the whole of the US is a shithole by looking at 1 street in Alabama where most of the residents are opioid-addicts , or that it's a Somalia-like warzone after looking at Chicago's south side...
fxj 8y ago
German Knife Crimes Pandemic? https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/kriminalstatistik-125.html https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/kriminalstatistik-125.html "One of the safest countries in the world" Interior Minister Seehofer expressed his satisfaction with the 2018 crime statistics, saying that the number of crimes had decreased by 3.6 percent. It is lower than it has been for decades, the minister said.
username223 8y ago
Knives? We don't need such primitive tools in 'Murica: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2010_homicide_suicide_rates_high-income_countries.png#/media/File:2010_homicide_suicide_rates_high-income_countries.png https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2010_homicide_suicid...
bananasbandanas 8y ago
What misinformation. Germany just had the fewest crimes in 2018 since 1992, and generally has much fewer violent crime than the US. Some actual sources which are not from a far-right 'think tank': Crime statistic summary (english): https://www.bmi.bund.de/SharedDocs/downloads/EN/publikationen/2019/pks-2018-flyer.html https://www.bmi.bund.de/SharedDocs/downloads/EN/publikatione... Crime statistic full (german): https://www.bmi.bund.de/SharedDocs/downloads/DE/publikationen/themen/sicherheit/pks-2018.html https://www.bmi.bund.de/SharedDocs/downloads/DE/publikatione... FAZ article (german): https://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/inland/kriminalstatistik-so-wenige-straftaten-wie-seit-1992-nicht-mehr-15579774.html https://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/inland/kriminalstatistik...
Tade0 8y ago
If I'm reading these statistics correctly the stabbing rate in Germany is now on par with the homocide rate in the US. Of course not all stabbings are fatal.
mosselman 8y ago
Bold move, trying to critique Europe on violent crime statistics versus those of the US.

arethuza 8y ago

Note that the knife crime problem is in England and Wales not the entire UK and is pretty much due to a conscious decision by the then home secretary (now PM) to drastically reduce police numbers and change how they police.

tonyedgecombe 8y ago

UK homicide rate: 1.20 per 100,000 German homicide rate: 1.18 per 100,000 US homicide rate: 5.35 per 100,000 Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate#United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intention...

wozniacki 8y ago
Well would you care to clarify how well these fine folks are doing in various European capitals while youre at it? Surely they are neither inking poetry at tony cafes nor building businesses, now are they? [1][2][3] [1] Benefits Street S01E01 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqvsF2bBu4o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqvsF2bBu4o [2] The Streets of Paris https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1Js8wntdk4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1Js8wntdk4 [3] Only Two Men Convicted After 1,200 Sexual Assaults In Cologne (HBO) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl04r1OjRQs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl04r1OjRQs
- fxj 8y ago
  Reason for the low convition rate [3]. The cameras were too bad: https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/koeln-silvester-justiz-101.html https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/koeln-silvester-justiz-101.... Perpetrators could hardly be identified In Cologne, the charges resulted in preliminary proceedings against 290 suspects and to date in 43 indictments against a total of 52 defendants; in addition, six orders of summary punishment were issued. According to the local court, six of the cases are still pending. But most of the proceedings deal with accusations such as theft, robbery or receiving stolen goods. The allegation of sexual coercion was made in only three proceedings against a total of six accused persons. The biggest difficulty for the investigators: Many of the suspected perpetrators of sexual assaults from New Year's Eve could only be identified with difficulty afterwards. The investigators evaluated more than 1000 hours of image material, for example from surveillance cameras. However, in most cases it was not possible to identify individual persons.
- netsharc 8y ago
  To cite Benefits Street to say the whole of Europe is like that is like concluding the whole of the US is a shithole by looking at 1 street in Alabama where most of the residents are opioid-addicts , or that it's a Somalia-like warzone after looking at Chicago's south side...

fxj 8y ago

German Knife Crimes Pandemic? https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/kriminalstatistik-125.html https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/kriminalstatistik-125.html "One of the safest countries in the world" Interior Minister Seehofer expressed his satisfaction with the 2018 crime statistics, saying that the number of crimes had decreased by 3.6 percent. It is lower than it has been for decades, the minister said.

username223 8y ago

Knives? We don't need such primitive tools in 'Murica: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2010_homicide_suicide_rates_high-income_countries.png#/media/File:2010_homicide_suicide_rates_high-income_countries.png https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2010_homicide_suicid...

bananasbandanas 8y ago

What misinformation. Germany just had the fewest crimes in 2018 since 1992, and generally has much fewer violent crime than the US. Some actual sources which are not from a far-right 'think tank': Crime statistic summary (english): https://www.bmi.bund.de/SharedDocs/downloads/EN/publikationen/2019/pks-2018-flyer.html https://www.bmi.bund.de/SharedDocs/downloads/EN/publikatione... Crime statistic full (german): https://www.bmi.bund.de/SharedDocs/downloads/DE/publikationen/themen/sicherheit/pks-2018.html https://www.bmi.bund.de/SharedDocs/downloads/DE/publikatione... FAZ article (german): https://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/inland/kriminalstatistik-so-wenige-straftaten-wie-seit-1992-nicht-mehr-15579774.html https://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/inland/kriminalstatistik...

Tade0 8y ago

If I'm reading these statistics correctly the stabbing rate in Germany is now on par with the homocide rate in the US. Of course not all stabbings are fatal.

mosselman 8y ago

Bold move, trying to critique Europe on violent crime statistics versus those of the US.