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It's a bit silly to argue that candidates take up too much space on a IRV ballot when it would suffice to duplicate only the box and not their name, as in
by tromp 8y ago
It's a bit silly to argue that candidates take up too much space on a IRV ballot when it would suffice to duplicate only the box and not their name, as in
1st 2nd 3rd choice
John Adams [ ] [ ] [ ]
Ben Franklin [ ] [ ] [ ]
Tom Jefferson [ ] [ ] [ ]
Betsy Ross [ ] [ ] [ ]
- hadrien01 8y agoOr just put in a number in a single column boxes like in Australia or Ireland.
- erentz 8y agoAnd same in NZ where they’re used in local elections.
- magduf 8y ago>Or just put in a number in a single column boxes like in Australia or Ireland. What do you do when some moron voter can't count and reuses the same number, or skips a number? This kind of voting scheme seems like it would much too complicated and confusing to the average American voter.
- Frondo 8y agoThrow the ballot out. People mis-fill ballots now. People will always mis-fill ballots. The column of numbers thing seems extremely intuitive and wouldn't baffle a significant number of American voters; certainly it wouldn't lead to hanging-chad type situations.
- dragonwriter 8y ago> What do you do when some moron voter can't count and reuses the same number, or skips a number? Skipping is no problem. If you want, it's fairly trivial to modify IRV to allow equal preferences.
- sandGorgon 8y agothis is a non-US problem - in India, we typically have a dozen candidates in every election constituency. IRV is not very practical.
- karmelapple 8y agoIRV, or ranked choice voting, can be practical even with large numbers of candidates. Ballot designs can be made that keep the voting manageable. More importantly, ranking multiple people gets rid of the important problem first past the post has of splitting the vote with large numbers of candidates.
- cyphar 8y agoIn Australia we have tens of MP candidates in most electorates as well as several dozen senate party candidates with hundreds of individual senator candidates. IRV works perfectly fine here, though in the case of the senate does result in quite wide ballot papers. But if you only have a dozen candidates it's very simple -- you have a list of names and the voter specifies what preference they have (1st, 2nd, 3rd) in the box next to their name.
- sandGorgon 8y agoactually India mandates EVM - the elections in India are the biggest democratic event in the history of mankind. Its hard to to carry ballot papers over camel in the desert (that's a real thing). Approval voting is far more suitable for straight scrolling screens.
- specialist 8y agoFurther, my jurisdiction's general election has 30+ contests. Ballot real estate is already scarce. One mitigate is to split our plus-sized ballots into separate federal, state, and local, but no one is considering doing that. The primary argument against is ballot process (central count for vote-by-mail) is already complicated enough.