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I don't have a problem with the vibe of law, though it might be terrible in implementation and its drafting may have unforeseen consequences (haven't read it, s

I don't have a problem with the vibe of law, though it might be terrible in implementation and its drafting may have unforeseen consequences (haven't read it, so don't know). Don't really understand why people are conflating it with the encryption law though, which is an absolute shocker for so many obvious reasons. It has clear foreseen consequences for the Australian tech industry. Australia isn't obsessed with free speech like the US. You would find very very few people here comfortable with not removing ISIS videos 'expeditiously'. Also don't see an issue with going after higher management in companies in addition to the companies themselves. Should happen more often for corporate malfeasance. I guess the counter argument is the 'slippery slope' - first they go after ISIS/white supremacist videos, next it's someone who posted a video of police brutality or something like that. I say - we managed to ban assault weapons and bring in a gun licensing system over 20 years ago. It hasn't gone any further since. There was no slippery slope in this case. Suspect this will be much the same.

int_19h 8y ago
The most basic objection is that this seems to criminalize the act without mens rea, and with some very harsh punishments at that. It's one thing to criminalize the deliberate posting of such material - then we could talk about hate speech etc - but to criminalize not being fast enough at removing material someone else posted? On this: > I say - we managed to ban assault weapons and bring in a gun licensing system over 20 years ago. It hasn't gone any further since. This is not true, actually. Your government is currently obsessed with "rapid-fire lever action guns" that are "almost as fast as semi-auto", and actively trying to ban them. Which is exactly the kind of slippery slope that was predicted with your original ban. For another example, your police has recently banned a straight-pull bolt action rifle from importation. Which also happens to be a good example of the fact that your current system permits arbitrary reclassification of firearms by the executive with no legislative oversight - i.e. it's optimized for slippery slope.

int_19h 8y ago

The most basic objection is that this seems to criminalize the act without mens rea, and with some very harsh punishments at that. It's one thing to criminalize the deliberate posting of such material - then we could talk about hate speech etc - but to criminalize not being fast enough at removing material someone else posted? On this: > I say - we managed to ban assault weapons and bring in a gun licensing system over 20 years ago. It hasn't gone any further since. This is not true, actually. Your government is currently obsessed with "rapid-fire lever action guns" that are "almost as fast as semi-auto", and actively trying to ban them. Which is exactly the kind of slippery slope that was predicted with your original ban. For another example, your police has recently banned a straight-pull bolt action rifle from importation. Which also happens to be a good example of the fact that your current system permits arbitrary reclassification of firearms by the executive with no legislative oversight - i.e. it's optimized for slippery slope.