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Um, the leaks show the US government strongly pressuring european governments not to prosecute CIA officers who kidnapped and tortured completely innocent europ
by MichaelSalib 16y ago
Um, the leaks show the US government strongly pressuring european governments not to prosecute CIA officers who kidnapped and tortured completely innocent european citizens. We've suspected that all along, but now we have evidence that:
- The CIA kidnapped innocent people in Europe
- The CIA tortured those people
- The CIA abandoned them
- The US government will not tolerate even a symbolic condemnation of this behavior
And you think that looks pretty good? What?
there is a "lack of any significant difference between what the U.S. government says publicly and what these things show privately"
I must have missed the press conference where Sec Gates publicly announced that the US government kidnaps innocent people from our allies and tortures them and then refuses to even admit it let alone make restitution. In which press conference did the government publicly admit that? Because if you can't think of any, that suggests Sec Gates is a liar.
- danieldon 16y agoeuropean citizens...people...people...them...innocent people...them Why are you using plurals? Where did the cables discuss anyone fitting this description other than Khaled el-Masri?
- MichaelSalib 16y agoGood point. The cables only provide evidence that the US government captured and tortured this one particular innocent guy in Europe using their network of black sites, European prisons, and secret prisoner transportation networks. There's a ton of circumstantial evidence that they in fact used this infrastructure to kidnap and torture a whole bunch of other innocent people, but the current batch of cables doesn't prove that by itself. I highly recommend Jane Mayer's book The Dark Side for putting together all the public information we have on the black sites and the prisoner transport network though: http://www.amazon.com/Dark-Side-Inside-Terror-American/dp/0307456293/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1291203025&sr=8-1 http://www.amazon.com/Dark-Side-Inside-Terror-American/dp/03...