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I just reset your password, and logged out all active sessions. I appreciate the gesture you made, but you're exposing your friends and families to the random

I just reset your password, and logged out all active sessions. I appreciate the gesture you made, but you're exposing your friends and families to the random dregs of the Internet by giving away your account like that.

revscat 8y ago
Thanks, I guess? > I appreciate the gesture you made, but you're exposing your friends and families to the random dregs of the Internet by giving away your account like that. That's kind of the point. FB isn't going to change until it starts to suffer, and the a good way to cause it to suffer is to reduce its usefulness. The best way to do that is to make the feed useless. shrug Whatever. The account's locked now and I don't really care enough to unlock it. Interesting experiment.
- Loughla 8y ago
  Real question. How does making your family deal with extra bullshit from the awful parts of the internet make facebook suffer? I don't understand your logic with this.
  - revscat 8y ago
    a) It's debatable how much people "suffer" from fucking with Facebook. Facebook is evil. Fucking with them is good. b) Facebook will only suffer if the feed becomes (more) useless. I don't understand how you don't see the logic. Bad feed -> worse FB experience -> decreased usage.
    - aylmao 8y ago
      I don't think you addressed what the previous comment asked: > How does making your family deal with extra bullshit from the awful parts of the internet make facebook suffer? Assuming this is your real account with your real friends/family (which seems to be what you're saying, since you're convinced this would give real people a bad feed) then you're just exposing people who trust you to trolls. I could text your friends/family with spam, and since it's coming from someone they know, they might click it. I could ask them for personal details. I could just straight out insult them out of the blue and hurt their feelings, or send awful things their way. I really hope nobody did and in general would like to think people here wouldn't— but this is a public site and the internet is a big place. I doubt for your friends this would register as "their feed becoming useless"— it'd mostly just register as you being awful out of the blue, until you explain you were hacked. In any case, creating no content and letting people know you are only reachable through other services is probably a more effective way of making the Facebook less useful for the people you know. You could also just post noise yourself if you were committed to do so.
      - fumar 8y ago
        Facebook makes money by selling advertising space on its feed. It builds advertising friendly profiles of users that marketers use to target for their ads. You can setup a Facebook ad campaign today and see it for yourself. OP made its profile open for anyone to log into and potentially make edits. For example, changing his birthday, connecting to new people, new likes and dislikes, are all signals back to FB. They would no longer have a realistic advertising profile on OP. If everyone did what OP, then the overall advertising value proposition to marketers greatly diminishes. They can no longer say with a good degree of accuracy, "I am targeting 20 year olds who work in tech."
        aylmao 8y ago
        Don't worry, I understand that, and I know that's what OP was going for. My point is that OP didn't seem aware that it opened a vector of abuse for family/friends. A commenter mentioned: > I appreciate the gesture you made, but you're exposing your friends and families to the random dregs of the Internet by giving away your account like that. And OP responded with: > That's kind of the point. I don't think OP thinks the point is to expose friends to potential damage, just noise and nonsense unrelated to him. I was explaining that if that's what he wanted, he can "post noise" himself, as opposed to opening his account to the public internet to ensure the safety of his acquaintances.
        revscat 8y ago
        What damage? It’s fucking Facebook. It needs to die. I cannot imagine a situation wherein some dickwad posts something that would cause more damage than they already do, and the long term gain, should a movement start and Facebook become infected by rampant noise, would be a net positive.
        aylmao 8y ago
        Sigh. I see you still don't see what I mean. I invite you to analyze the earlier replies not only by me but also by other people who thought what you were doing wasn't the best approach, because no one disagrees with your motivation, just your execution. Have a good one.

revscat 8y ago

Thanks, I guess? > I appreciate the gesture you made, but you're exposing your friends and families to the random dregs of the Internet by giving away your account like that. That's kind of the point. FB isn't going to change until it starts to suffer, and the a good way to cause it to suffer is to reduce its usefulness. The best way to do that is to make the feed useless. shrug Whatever. The account's locked now and I don't really care enough to unlock it. Interesting experiment.

Loughla 8y ago
Real question. How does making your family deal with extra bullshit from the awful parts of the internet make facebook suffer? I don't understand your logic with this.
- revscat 8y ago
  a) It's debatable how much people "suffer" from fucking with Facebook. Facebook is evil. Fucking with them is good. b) Facebook will only suffer if the feed becomes (more) useless. I don't understand how you don't see the logic. Bad feed -> worse FB experience -> decreased usage.
  - aylmao 8y ago
    I don't think you addressed what the previous comment asked: > How does making your family deal with extra bullshit from the awful parts of the internet make facebook suffer? Assuming this is your real account with your real friends/family (which seems to be what you're saying, since you're convinced this would give real people a bad feed) then you're just exposing people who trust you to trolls. I could text your friends/family with spam, and since it's coming from someone they know, they might click it. I could ask them for personal details. I could just straight out insult them out of the blue and hurt their feelings, or send awful things their way. I really hope nobody did and in general would like to think people here wouldn't— but this is a public site and the internet is a big place. I doubt for your friends this would register as "their feed becoming useless"— it'd mostly just register as you being awful out of the blue, until you explain you were hacked. In any case, creating no content and letting people know you are only reachable through other services is probably a more effective way of making the Facebook less useful for the people you know. You could also just post noise yourself if you were committed to do so.
    - fumar 8y ago
      Facebook makes money by selling advertising space on its feed. It builds advertising friendly profiles of users that marketers use to target for their ads. You can setup a Facebook ad campaign today and see it for yourself. OP made its profile open for anyone to log into and potentially make edits. For example, changing his birthday, connecting to new people, new likes and dislikes, are all signals back to FB. They would no longer have a realistic advertising profile on OP. If everyone did what OP, then the overall advertising value proposition to marketers greatly diminishes. They can no longer say with a good degree of accuracy, "I am targeting 20 year olds who work in tech."
      - aylmao 8y ago
        Don't worry, I understand that, and I know that's what OP was going for. My point is that OP didn't seem aware that it opened a vector of abuse for family/friends. A commenter mentioned: > I appreciate the gesture you made, but you're exposing your friends and families to the random dregs of the Internet by giving away your account like that. And OP responded with: > That's kind of the point. I don't think OP thinks the point is to expose friends to potential damage, just noise and nonsense unrelated to him. I was explaining that if that's what he wanted, he can "post noise" himself, as opposed to opening his account to the public internet to ensure the safety of his acquaintances.
        revscat 8y ago
        What damage? It’s fucking Facebook. It needs to die. I cannot imagine a situation wherein some dickwad posts something that would cause more damage than they already do, and the long term gain, should a movement start and Facebook become infected by rampant noise, would be a net positive.
        aylmao 8y ago
        Sigh. I see you still don't see what I mean. I invite you to analyze the earlier replies not only by me but also by other people who thought what you were doing wasn't the best approach, because no one disagrees with your motivation, just your execution. Have a good one.