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I'm pretty sure 50% of the people on this forum have ran nmap against wikileaks, just to see. Anyhow: ssh and ftp are open but they terminate the connection aft

I'm pretty sure 50% of the people on this forum have ran nmap against wikileaks, just to see. Anyhow: ssh and ftp are open but they terminate the connection after a delay when you try to connect, probably source ip restrictions. Same for ssh. They are hosted on EC2. I am assuming they are using the Amazon AMI, which doesn't take ssh root logins, and the user name will be ec2-user@[host]. The connection is open for the period of the delay. This might a viable attack vector for a DDOS? (If you cannot connect to FTP or ssh, you cannot upload files). Note: Wikileaks is hosted on Amazon AWS Ireland. You're telling me the US government doesn't have the ability to pull an AWS server in Ireland with a phone call? Oh please. Wikileaks is a poor attempt by the US government to unleash an attack a group that funds its political opponents - this will occur in the near future.

sorbus 16y ago
Wikileaks only moved to amazon really recently, to avoid the DDoS attacks against it (or at least to lessen their impact on the site's availability), I think. Your conspiracy theory doesn't really have much weight behind it, unless you have other supporting evidence.
- spinlocked 16y ago
  When conspiracy theories have supporting evidence they cease to be conspiracy theories. Your Myers Briggs personality type is probably enfj.
  - sorbus 16y ago
    intj, actually. Wikileaks has now left amazon[1], after amazon was extremely unreliable. So, it was on amazon for a few days, and then went back to Sweden - according to your theory, pressured to be removed by the US government, which I'm not going to dispute, as that part makes sense. If it were a part of a conspiracy by the US government, it likely would have stayed there (seriously, changing providers a lot only makes people more suspicious and makes it seem less reliable). More evidence against your theory. Furthermore, wikipedia describes conspiracy theories as "used almost exclusively to refer to any fringe theory which explains a historical or current event as the result of a secret plot by conspirators of almost superhuman power and cunning." Your conspiracy theory is a fringe theory, requires the US government to be extremely competent and cunning (releasing documents which damage the people releasing them to build credibility before releasing documents to give an excuse for an attack on another group is rather convoluted), and involves a secret plot. Note the complete lack of any requirement for evidence. A conspiracy theory can be correct or incorrect and still be a conspiracy theory, as long as it is not widely accepted. [1] http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1958939 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1958939
    - spinlocked 16y ago
      > intj, actually. close ;)

sorbus 16y ago

Wikileaks only moved to amazon really recently, to avoid the DDoS attacks against it (or at least to lessen their impact on the site's availability), I think. Your conspiracy theory doesn't really have much weight behind it, unless you have other supporting evidence.

spinlocked 16y ago
When conspiracy theories have supporting evidence they cease to be conspiracy theories. Your Myers Briggs personality type is probably enfj.
- sorbus 16y ago
  intj, actually. Wikileaks has now left amazon[1], after amazon was extremely unreliable. So, it was on amazon for a few days, and then went back to Sweden - according to your theory, pressured to be removed by the US government, which I'm not going to dispute, as that part makes sense. If it were a part of a conspiracy by the US government, it likely would have stayed there (seriously, changing providers a lot only makes people more suspicious and makes it seem less reliable). More evidence against your theory. Furthermore, wikipedia describes conspiracy theories as "used almost exclusively to refer to any fringe theory which explains a historical or current event as the result of a secret plot by conspirators of almost superhuman power and cunning." Your conspiracy theory is a fringe theory, requires the US government to be extremely competent and cunning (releasing documents which damage the people releasing them to build credibility before releasing documents to give an excuse for an attack on another group is rather convoluted), and involves a secret plot. Note the complete lack of any requirement for evidence. A conspiracy theory can be correct or incorrect and still be a conspiracy theory, as long as it is not widely accepted. [1] http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1958939 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1958939
  - spinlocked 16y ago
    > intj, actually. close ;)