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Genuine question: Is it just me or does this reddit-style mugging for karma not really belong on HN?

kadendogthing 8y ago
It doesn't belong anywhere.
klank 8y ago
How would you describe a "reddit-style mugging for karma"? I didn't find the post you're referring to as having added anything additional to the conversation and I also didn't find it entertaining, which I believe was the poster's goal. However, I wasn't struck with some kind of "this is a bad thing from other platform" vibe.
- samstave 8y ago
  I appreciate your comment, even if you didn't mine. Thanks.
- Varcht 8y ago
  I think it got a valid thought across. It works as a sort of shorthand. Would have been 3x longer in essay form.
  - dragonwriter 8y ago
    > It works as a sort of shorthand. Would have been 3x longer in essay form. beering’s sibling comment made essentially the same point in direct expository form, and was much shorter, so I disagree with the suggestion that that rambling narrative is any sort of shorthand.
    - Varcht 8y ago
      Are you stalking me?
- bredren 8y ago
  I think “decorum” around here is to strive for some kind of unified voice similar to The Economist. I’ve tried some humor or exaggerated voice and it is rarely appreciated with upvotes. One thing I have learned is HN readers like Weekend at Bernie’s—-where my tongue in cheek defense of the film garnered the most comment upvotes I’ve ever received.
  - ghostbrainalpha 8y ago
    I upvoted that comment. And I'll upvote this one for mentioning it. That's a great movie.
    - bredren 8y ago
      Not supposed to do this, but I'll spend those upvotes: lol.
  - _Codemonkeyism 8y ago
    Economist, you wish.
  - xiphias2 8y ago
    The main problem with humor on HN is that it's just too easy to find humor anywhere on the internet, but there's no other news site where you can critically discuss the news itself. Also on Reddit it's frustrating when I'm writing something informative and it gets hidden between the memes and the jokes, so I tend to stick to jokes there.
    - Varcht 8y ago
      Why do you think this is an attempt at humor? I would say this is what is often referred to as a thought exercise.
  - ada1981 8y ago
    🆒 Upvoted purely on the Weekend at Bernie’s reference.
- gramstrong 8y ago
  >How would you describe a "reddit-style mugging for karma"? Normally an extreme appeal to emotion. In this case excessive use of caps-lock and a fictional narrative that doesn't substantiate itself.
samstave 8y ago
Genuine Question: Does this thought process of summarizing the shenanigans we see in the world from entities like FB not serve to drive home a quick idea, without having to read pages and pages of text to get the point across not have a place. I have been on HN for more than a decade. I tire of the higher-than-thou bullshit where a dialog of context for various subjects is shunned from some taboo on delivery of the premise. So I reject your position. Would you like me to cite things that I know personally about FB, or cite every single compacted reference made in that comment at great length so you can feel superior in your understanding that you may not have? I mean -- FFS - understand that there are people who want to make a condensed comment on shit that happens in the tech field but I don't want to write a diatribe wit ha bibliography on why "because screw, them, that's why" is a salient summary. (See: on HN "google deep-sixes usenet" on FP today)
- TAForObvReasons 8y ago
  With FB in particular, many HN denizens owe much of their wealth to the company either directly or indirectly (through acquisitions, seed capital from former employees, etc), so many of the criticisms that point to Zuckerberg in specific are frowned upon. In short, "don't bite the hand that feeds you"
  - rootusrootus 8y ago
    I don't see that too much, to be honest. If there is any sort of corporate love here, it feels more like it's Google that enjoys it, not Facebook.
    - Loughla 8y ago
      Yeah - there are many comments about Facebook's lack of ethics on this site. I'm betting more than any other large tech company. Hell there was even a poster in a different facebook story talking about how it was fun to tell headhunters they refused to apply to facebook because of ethics.
- tsunamifury 8y ago
decebalus1 8y ago
I get what you're saying. The main reason I hate 'The martian' was that to me the whole book sounded like the above post. Like it was written by someone on Reddit.
root_axis 8y ago
haha yeah! reddit is so stupid, and the users make dumb comments. HN is for smart people. Nobody here cares about karma, that's for sure!

It doesn't belong anywhere.

How would you describe a "reddit-style mugging for karma"? I didn't find the post you're referring to as having added anything additional to the conversation and I also didn't find it entertaining, which I believe was the poster's goal. However, I wasn't struck with some kind of "this is a bad thing from other platform" vibe.

samstave 8y ago
I appreciate your comment, even if you didn't mine. Thanks.
Varcht 8y ago
I think it got a valid thought across. It works as a sort of shorthand. Would have been 3x longer in essay form.
- dragonwriter 8y ago
  > It works as a sort of shorthand. Would have been 3x longer in essay form. beering’s sibling comment made essentially the same point in direct expository form, and was much shorter, so I disagree with the suggestion that that rambling narrative is any sort of shorthand.
  - Varcht 8y ago
    Are you stalking me?
bredren 8y ago
I think “decorum” around here is to strive for some kind of unified voice similar to The Economist. I’ve tried some humor or exaggerated voice and it is rarely appreciated with upvotes. One thing I have learned is HN readers like Weekend at Bernie’s—-where my tongue in cheek defense of the film garnered the most comment upvotes I’ve ever received.
- ghostbrainalpha 8y ago
  I upvoted that comment. And I'll upvote this one for mentioning it. That's a great movie.
  - bredren 8y ago
    Not supposed to do this, but I'll spend those upvotes: lol.
- _Codemonkeyism 8y ago
  Economist, you wish.
- xiphias2 8y ago
  The main problem with humor on HN is that it's just too easy to find humor anywhere on the internet, but there's no other news site where you can critically discuss the news itself. Also on Reddit it's frustrating when I'm writing something informative and it gets hidden between the memes and the jokes, so I tend to stick to jokes there.
  - Varcht 8y ago
    Why do you think this is an attempt at humor? I would say this is what is often referred to as a thought exercise.
- ada1981 8y ago
  🆒 Upvoted purely on the Weekend at Bernie’s reference.
gramstrong 8y ago
>How would you describe a "reddit-style mugging for karma"? Normally an extreme appeal to emotion. In this case excessive use of caps-lock and a fictional narrative that doesn't substantiate itself.

samstave 8y ago

Genuine Question: Does this thought process of summarizing the shenanigans we see in the world from entities like FB not serve to drive home a quick idea, without having to read pages and pages of text to get the point across not have a place. I have been on HN for more than a decade. I tire of the higher-than-thou bullshit where a dialog of context for various subjects is shunned from some taboo on delivery of the premise. So I reject your position. Would you like me to cite things that I know personally about FB, or cite every single compacted reference made in that comment at great length so you can feel superior in your understanding that you may not have? I mean -- FFS - understand that there are people who want to make a condensed comment on shit that happens in the tech field but I don't want to write a diatribe wit ha bibliography on why "because screw, them, that's why" is a salient summary. (See: on HN "google deep-sixes usenet" on FP today)

TAForObvReasons 8y ago
With FB in particular, many HN denizens owe much of their wealth to the company either directly or indirectly (through acquisitions, seed capital from former employees, etc), so many of the criticisms that point to Zuckerberg in specific are frowned upon. In short, "don't bite the hand that feeds you"
- rootusrootus 8y ago
  I don't see that too much, to be honest. If there is any sort of corporate love here, it feels more like it's Google that enjoys it, not Facebook.
  - Loughla 8y ago
    Yeah - there are many comments about Facebook's lack of ethics on this site. I'm betting more than any other large tech company. Hell there was even a poster in a different facebook story talking about how it was fun to tell headhunters they refused to apply to facebook because of ethics.
tsunamifury 8y ago

decebalus1 8y ago

I get what you're saying. The main reason I hate 'The martian' was that to me the whole book sounded like the above post. Like it was written by someone on Reddit.

root_axis 8y ago

haha yeah! reddit is so stupid, and the users make dumb comments. HN is for smart people. Nobody here cares about karma, that's for sure!