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America is awesome, I appreciate and know how lucky we are to be here.

by DigiMortal 8y ago

saiya-jin 8y ago
> America is awesome, I appreciate and know how lucky we are to be here. In which regard? Compared to which place?
- DigiMortal 8y ago
  We lead the world in R&D, we aren't in a surveillance state like China (~1.3B people), we aren't undeveloped, we have the US dollar - the commanding world currency. We develop the best military technology, space technology, most all technology. We issue the most patents, by far. We (as people) have more rights than most all other nations and we led many other rights to attain rights for their own citizens. We protect Europe and the West. We will continue leading the galaxy in space development. We have the best talent in the world. We are Earth's shining civilization.
  - mav3rick 8y ago
    We can't afford healthcare for our people.
    - mastox 8y ago
      I don't have any knowledge one way or another, but is this true? I guess it seems like we can afford healthcare just fine, but allocating money to healthcare/education/etc is a different problem.
      - mav3rick 8y ago
        We can but we don't want to. It's even worse.
        mastox 8y ago
        > It's even worse. Agreed. I personally view Daylight Savings as being horrid for mental health reasons, and I have plenty of friends and family that feel the same. There is no hope for any of us to change that. So from my view point, if we can't discuss an issue as simple as Daylight Savings, then there's little hope for bigger issues. Also, from a "peasants" view, we want to change, but getting that translated to actual change through the system seems impossible. It doesn't help there are legitimate differences on what solutions even looks like.
  - alex_hitchins 8y ago
    I think you left the /s from that post. I don't believe you can seriously believe such statements.
    - alehul 8y ago
      > I don't believe you can seriously believe such statements. While the parent commenter's tone was extremely glorifying, do you _not_ believe that the U.S. leads the world in R&D? Or that China _is_ a surveillance state, and one in which the citizens have much less in terms of rights? Does the U.S. not hold the most patents? At least half of his statements aren't even subjective ones... Are you berating him for his content, or his tone? This seems like the opposite of the Principle of Charity, which is what HN was built upon.
      - cyphar 8y ago
        > Or that China _is_ a surveillance state It is, as is the US. Or most other developed nations, if we're going to be honest with ourselves. > Does the U.S. not hold the most patents? The US patent system has a very large number of patents (maybe the largest number in the world), but how many are held by US citizens and companies? Foreign entities are allowed to register US patents (and many do) in order to be able to sue US entities. In fact, this effect is significant enough that the Australian Government's Law Reform Commission noted in a 1990 report[1] that the existence of a patent system may actually have a net negative effect to the economy because of this effect. [1]: https://www.alrc.gov.au/publications/2-patent-system/economic-benefits-patent-system https://www.alrc.gov.au/publications/2-patent-system/economi...
    - wang_li 8y ago
      Ignoring the silly stuff the parent poster wrote, the facts available indicate that by millions of people's analysis the US is the best country on Earth. The US naturalizes a million immigrants every year and has done so for the last thirty years. There are more than forty million non-citizens living in the US. No other country has that number of immigrants. Plus there is no country to which more Americans emigrate than from which people immigrate to the US.
  - jonathanstrange 8y ago
    Okay. But you have shitty border controls, I've heard.
  - geofft 8y ago
    > We develop the best military technology Then why didn't you win in Vietnam? > We issue the most patents, by far. The US decides what is patentable, so that's basically a participation trophy. > We (as people) have more rights than most all other nations How have you enumerated this? > We protect Europe and the West. By handing half of Germany over to Stalin?
    - mav3rick 8y ago
      Winning wars is also about strategy not just technology. Also, Russia was an ally in WW2, it demanded reparations. These two are unrelated and historical facts.
      - geofft 8y ago
        Good points. Military technology isn't that important, therefore the US continues to be the best country because it has the best military technology. Also, it's okay that the US didn't defend Europe from Communism because it was allied with the Communists.
        xeeeeeeeeeeenu 8y ago
        So you are saying that USA should have started WW3 immediately after WW2?
        geofft 8y ago
        Oh, I'm not taking issue with the US's behavior. I'm just taking issue with people who use it to argue that the US is the bestest country evar. If it really were, it would have been able to defeat the USSR soundly with its superior military technology. It's perfectly fine to admit the US is a mediocre large country, absolutely worth living in, but not some singular shining glory. It's perfectly fine to admit the US is bad at both picking and waging wars. That's my position.
        mav3rick 8y ago
  - gsklee 8y ago
    You are a total joke dude. Go to reddit or 4chan for this kind of shitpost, we don't need it here.
  - 0_gravitas 8y ago
    What an embarrassment.
- sergiotapia 8y ago
  He asked, on a US website, using US invested technology, on a US written application. Please let's not kid ourselves, the US rocks!
alex_hitchins 8y ago
I appreciate the fact I'm British, but not out of any patriotism. I certainly don't think my country is awesome. Considering life is a lottery, all things considered I've been incredibly lucky to be born in a 'developed' wealthy nation.

America is awesome, I appreciate and know how lucky we are to be here.

saiya-jin 8y ago

> America is awesome, I appreciate and know how lucky we are to be here. In which regard? Compared to which place?

DigiMortal 8y ago
We lead the world in R&D, we aren't in a surveillance state like China (~1.3B people), we aren't undeveloped, we have the US dollar - the commanding world currency. We develop the best military technology, space technology, most all technology. We issue the most patents, by far. We (as people) have more rights than most all other nations and we led many other rights to attain rights for their own citizens. We protect Europe and the West. We will continue leading the galaxy in space development. We have the best talent in the world. We are Earth's shining civilization.
- mav3rick 8y ago
  We can't afford healthcare for our people.
  - mastox 8y ago
    I don't have any knowledge one way or another, but is this true? I guess it seems like we can afford healthcare just fine, but allocating money to healthcare/education/etc is a different problem.
    - mav3rick 8y ago
      We can but we don't want to. It's even worse.
      - mastox 8y ago
        > It's even worse. Agreed. I personally view Daylight Savings as being horrid for mental health reasons, and I have plenty of friends and family that feel the same. There is no hope for any of us to change that. So from my view point, if we can't discuss an issue as simple as Daylight Savings, then there's little hope for bigger issues. Also, from a "peasants" view, we want to change, but getting that translated to actual change through the system seems impossible. It doesn't help there are legitimate differences on what solutions even looks like.
- alex_hitchins 8y ago
  I think you left the /s from that post. I don't believe you can seriously believe such statements.
  - alehul 8y ago
    > I don't believe you can seriously believe such statements. While the parent commenter's tone was extremely glorifying, do you _not_ believe that the U.S. leads the world in R&D? Or that China _is_ a surveillance state, and one in which the citizens have much less in terms of rights? Does the U.S. not hold the most patents? At least half of his statements aren't even subjective ones... Are you berating him for his content, or his tone? This seems like the opposite of the Principle of Charity, which is what HN was built upon.
    - cyphar 8y ago
      > Or that China _is_ a surveillance state It is, as is the US. Or most other developed nations, if we're going to be honest with ourselves. > Does the U.S. not hold the most patents? The US patent system has a very large number of patents (maybe the largest number in the world), but how many are held by US citizens and companies? Foreign entities are allowed to register US patents (and many do) in order to be able to sue US entities. In fact, this effect is significant enough that the Australian Government's Law Reform Commission noted in a 1990 report[1] that the existence of a patent system may actually have a net negative effect to the economy because of this effect. [1]: https://www.alrc.gov.au/publications/2-patent-system/economic-benefits-patent-system https://www.alrc.gov.au/publications/2-patent-system/economi...
  - wang_li 8y ago
    Ignoring the silly stuff the parent poster wrote, the facts available indicate that by millions of people's analysis the US is the best country on Earth. The US naturalizes a million immigrants every year and has done so for the last thirty years. There are more than forty million non-citizens living in the US. No other country has that number of immigrants. Plus there is no country to which more Americans emigrate than from which people immigrate to the US.
- jonathanstrange 8y ago
  Okay. But you have shitty border controls, I've heard.
- geofft 8y ago
  > We develop the best military technology Then why didn't you win in Vietnam? > We issue the most patents, by far. The US decides what is patentable, so that's basically a participation trophy. > We (as people) have more rights than most all other nations How have you enumerated this? > We protect Europe and the West. By handing half of Germany over to Stalin?
  - mav3rick 8y ago
    Winning wars is also about strategy not just technology. Also, Russia was an ally in WW2, it demanded reparations. These two are unrelated and historical facts.
    - geofft 8y ago
      Good points. Military technology isn't that important, therefore the US continues to be the best country because it has the best military technology. Also, it's okay that the US didn't defend Europe from Communism because it was allied with the Communists.
      - xeeeeeeeeeeenu 8y ago
        So you are saying that USA should have started WW3 immediately after WW2?
        geofft 8y ago
        Oh, I'm not taking issue with the US's behavior. I'm just taking issue with people who use it to argue that the US is the bestest country evar. If it really were, it would have been able to defeat the USSR soundly with its superior military technology. It's perfectly fine to admit the US is a mediocre large country, absolutely worth living in, but not some singular shining glory. It's perfectly fine to admit the US is bad at both picking and waging wars. That's my position.
        mav3rick 8y ago
- gsklee 8y ago
  You are a total joke dude. Go to reddit or 4chan for this kind of shitpost, we don't need it here.
- 0_gravitas 8y ago
  What an embarrassment.
sergiotapia 8y ago
He asked, on a US website, using US invested technology, on a US written application. Please let's not kid ourselves, the US rocks!

alex_hitchins 8y ago

I appreciate the fact I'm British, but not out of any patriotism. I certainly don't think my country is awesome. Considering life is a lottery, all things considered I've been incredibly lucky to be born in a 'developed' wealthy nation.