I think what drstewart is getting at is the vagueness of stevebmark's claim: > I really appreciate other programming language ecosystems... that have abandoned

I think what drstewart is getting at is the vagueness of stevebmark's claim: > I really appreciate other programming language ecosystems... that have abandoned things like this He doesn't articulate what "things like this" are, and instead leans on bbatsov's critique, though it's not clear how. It seems you're suggesting he means "the particular syntax additions bbatsov doesn't like," but that doesn't make sense, either—you're telling me he means that other language ecosystems have abandoned Ruby 1.9 hash literals, refinements, %i literals, etc.?