That's a very good point; I'm very much that way myself, and more so every year. Part of it is cynicism from being at the bottom of a pecking order that puts t

That's a very good point; I'm very much that way myself, and more so every year. Part of it is cynicism from being at the bottom of a pecking order that puts the braying salesman and architypal PHB at the top and consistently having advice and ideas ignored, while given impossible deadlines because people don't know how to manage a development process properly. However there is also a very negative vibe among geeks in general, especially (but not exclusively) in the UK. No doubt American geeks suffer from the same idiots in charge, but say the hell with it, and go start their own companies. Here there is more of a resigned shrug of the shoulders. It's not a univeral British trait; people in other walks of life seem to have a more positive attitude.