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Woman from China Carrying Malware Arrested After Entering Mar-a-Lago

100 points by somerandomness 8y ago

dmix 8y ago
The 4 cell phones thing and her sketchy story is suspicious. But anyone could have malware on a USB stick. Especially from China. That said this sounds way too sloppy for state espionage. Maybe it’s private? Or they are recruiting way too many people and let some bad ones in.
- bredren 8y ago
  It does seem like a sloppy attempt at espionage. But perhaps it worked in the past.
  - willsr 8y ago
    Testing the waters maybe..
    - beenBoutIT 8y ago
      She could just be nuts.
      - bredren 8y ago
        This was actually my first thought. But I was going to call her a “random.”
- yardie 8y ago
  Trojan horse? Distract Secret Service agents with a clueless decoy while the real spies are sneaking around out back. Seems to be a subplot in lots of action movies.
- darkpuma 8y ago
  Her story is completely nonsensical, she's an awful liar. Or, is pretending to be an awful liar. Perhaps she's clever and is pretending to be a hapless rube, in an effort to diminish her perceived culpability. With spy shit like this, either is a possibility.
  - deleted 8y ago
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- zip1234 8y ago
  Too sloppy for state espionage? In my experience, the level of competence in government varied widely. This is entirely plausible as state espionage.
  - 0815test 8y ago
    Yup. Moreover, most "state espionage" and the like is really just a state-sponsored variation of garden-variety opportunistic/criminal activity that would otherwise be quite ordinary. This is something that most people might not generally realize, because there's so much focus on high-profile espionage. But that's rare and not at all the common case.
  - anthony_doan 8y ago
    Seriously they destroy Iran nuclear enrichment with stuxnet by leaving usb flash drive around. The worker took it, kept it as there own and use it at the nuclear enrichment site.
- papermill 8y ago
  It does sound comical. Maybe the chinese are getting desperate after the huawei exec got arrested? Or maybe it's just a "setup" to apply pressure on china before the next round of trade talks. Usually espionage/intel related events are kept secret. When it's publicized, it's usually for political/trade/etc reasons. Just like how china magically found canadian "spies" in their country right after canada arrested one of their executives and used their propaganda apparatus to put pressure on canada. If this was real serious espionage, I doubt the secret service, cia, etc would release the info so quickly to the media. Does this mean the trade negotiations are not going well? Does it mean it is going well? It'll be interesting to read about the inner workings of the trade negotiations a few decades from now and what historians make of this time. Things like can only be understood in hindsight and never in the moment because we, no more than the chinese people, get to see what is really happening behind the scenes. Everyone gets the massaged and curated "news".
- threeseed 8y ago
  Russia has openly attacked the US, UK, EU with their online efforts. These days you don't need to be convert.
prototyperaptor 8y ago
The NYT article either leaves out that the woman was carrying Republic of China passports, or is erroneously conflating RoC and PRC.
- gcb0 8y ago
  it says "passaports". Do people from RoC must now have a PRC passport too after the recent occupation? I have no idea how passports work for people under the Taiwan political mess.
  - jpatokal 8y ago
    > after the recent occupation ??? Taiwan citizens can get two flavors of PRC passport-equivalents for travel to the PRC: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Travel_Document https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Travel_Document https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainland_Travel_Permit_for_Taiwan_Residents https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainland_Travel_Permit_for_Tai... PRC nationals going to Taiwan need an almost-visa, but can use their PRC passport: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exit_%26_Entry_Permit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exit_%26_Entry_Permit
  - A2017U1 8y ago
    My Taiwanese friend has two passports. She uses the PRC one for the mainland and ROC in the West. Basically just use whatever passport causes less trouble. It's a fairly simple arrangement
saagarjha 8y ago
> She was allowed to enter by Secret Service agents stationed outside the resort after the Mar-a-Lago security manager on duty verified that her last name matched the surname of a member of the club, according to a complaint filed in federal district court in South Florida. I mean, Zhang is a pretty common surname, so if that's the only checking they did this sounds pretty inadequate…
gcb0 8y ago
so, in summary for the article: journalists found that her story checks out. and it's related to an event organized by a prostitution entrepreneur who claims to have access to Trump, and the secret service filled in a report saying they have no idea of such event?
- MeltySmelty 8y ago
  Lol, hang it up, kiddo.
- mxcrossb 8y ago
  I think the human trafficking angle is most likely. Someone was trying to introduce her to this Ms. Yang to get her in to her business, but wasn’t aware that the event was cancelled.
mikeyouse 8y ago
Why again did we decide that it's okay for our President to spend every weekend at his private, unsecured, for-profit clubs? The Secret Service has already said they can't and won't keep a log of all guests to Mar-a-Lago. Can you imagine the number of bugs/listening devices that are already there? Dozens of foreign nationals already work there on H2B visas[1], they have open-air national security crisis response meetings in front of random Palm Beach socialites[2], he's personally profiting off of the club's increased membership fees[3] and Secret Service expenses[4], existing members included several people with criminal backgrounds and most recently the proprietor of the 'massage parlors' that ensnared Robert Kraft[5] and she was already caught selling access[6] and illegally bundling contributions[7] -- This seems like a security risk approaching the level of all the Russian weirdness. [1] - https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-mar-a-lago-club-in-florida-seeks-to-hire-40-foreign-workers/2018/07/05/5ef094b8-8099-11e8-bb6b-c1cb691f1402_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-mar-a-lago-cl... [2] - https://twitter.com/i/moments/831212884675981313?lang=en https://twitter.com/i/moments/831212884675981313?lang=en [3] - https://www.thedailybeast.com/mar-a-lago-membership-fee-doubles-to-dollar200k https://www.thedailybeast.com/mar-a-lago-membership-fee-doub... [4] - https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/405407-trumps-golf-cart-rentals-cost-taxpayers-more-than-300k-report https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/405407-trumps-go... [5] - https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/former-spa-owner-and-frequent-mar-a-lago-guest-sparks-concerns-about-porous-environment-at-presidents-club/2019/03/14/19c955a6-442e-11e9-aaf8-4512a6fe3439_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/former-spa-owner-and... [6] - https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/03/a-florida-massage-parlor-owner-has-been-selling-chinese-execs-access-to-trump-at-mar-a-lago/ https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/03/a-florida-massa... [7] - https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/03/a-florida-massage-parlor-owner-has-been-selling-chinese-execs-access-to-trump-at-mar-a-lago/ https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/03/a-florida-massa...
- JumpCrisscross 8y ago
  > Why again did we decide that it's okay for our President to spend every weekend at his private, unsecured, for-profit clubs? We elected him. Presidents get this purview. If this pisses you off, register to vote, volunteer for campaigns and join your local political club.
United857 8y ago
> She was allowed to enter by Secret Service agents stationed outside the resort after the Mar-a-Lago security manager on duty verified that her last name matched the surname of a member of the club, Zhang is the third most common last name in the world (source: https://www.quora.com/Whats-the-most-common-last-name-on-Earth https://www.quora.com/Whats-the-most-common-last-name-on-Ear...). Definitely a bit lax on the part of security/Secret Service to just do a last name check... I wouldn't be surprised if Chinese intelligence have exploited similar holes before.
- empath75 8y ago
  To be fair to the secret service, trump has put them on a terrible situation making them have to secure that place instead of using camp david like everyone else.
  - avs733 8y ago
    and is charging them money to do so.
    - craftyguy 8y ago
      > and is charging them money to do so. You mean, charging us, the taxpayers, to do so.
  - tenaciousDaniel 8y ago
    I live less than a mile from Mar-a-lago, and I drive by it all the time. It seems insane to do anything high-security there.
    - astrodust 8y ago
      "Seems insane." That's the administration in a nutshell.
      - godzillabrennus 8y ago
elliekelly 8y ago
Reading the article I was immediately concerned the cellphones and/or malware were used as probable cause for her arrest. Four cellphones is definitely excessive but not illegal (at one point I had three for work + a personal) and malware on a USB stick could happen to anyone. From the complaint[1] it looks like she's being charged for knowingly making false statements to gain access to a restricted area and (thankfully) not for having the phones/malware. [1] https://www.scribd.com/document/404159332/USA-v-Zhang-Complaint https://www.scribd.com/document/404159332/USA-v-Zhang-Compla...
- hermitdev 8y ago
  Why did you have 3 cellphones for work? That seems excesive to me. I can understand 1 for work, one for personal - I had this situation for quite a while myself. I'd prefer to only carry 1 phone, but I won't 'byod' to a company that reserves the right to remotely wipe my personal phone.
  - elliekelly 8y ago
    It absolutely was excessive. I had a US work phone and two international work phones because I dealt with foreign regulators who needed to be able to contact me at a "local" phone number. I'm not sure I ever managed to have all four charged at the same time. And I learned about BYOD the hard way. I do a bit of freelance legal journalism on the side and at one point I had a Reuters email address even though I wasn't an employee and I had it set up on my personal iPhone. One day I was getting off the subway and the entire phone went blank. A complete factory reset. Reuters had accidentally wiped the personal cellphones of everyone who had set up the company email on an iPhone. I remember one guy saying he lost the video of his daughter's first footsteps. This was before companies had controls around BYOD but I will certainly never allow a company to have any access to my device again.
    - kerng 8y ago
      I do the same, I would never trust a company's IT department to have any access or administrative power over my personal phone - same goes for laptop.
gaoshan 8y ago
This will turn out to have been a mentally ill person. I seriously doubt a real intelligence operative would show up for work with multiple passports, a pile of cell phones and a cover story that hinges upon a non-existent event being scheduled.
- microdrum 8y ago
  OTOH, mentally ill persons might have trouble obtaining one or several passports.
- ggggtez 8y ago
  You can't just go around calling everyone mentally ill because you don't like the idea that this person really was a spy. There are lots of people who want to spy, not just the CPC. If it helps you sleep at night, blame a company spy from TenCent instead.
droithomme 8y ago
Comparing this to myself, I often carry two cell phones, I assume my USB drives are not infected, but have no idea if they are and if they are I wouldn't be able to tell based on what I understand of infections that live in the firmware, and when I was much younger, in my teens and early 20s, I definitely snuck into quite a few nice swimming pools at hotels and clubs, along with every one of my peers! I also snuck into a major party presidential convention once because why not, and it was educational and interesting and democratic to do so anyway. I don't have two passports, but I've heard a lot of people do. So this all sounds dodgy when they report on it like that, but there's also a chance she's just someone going for a swim. In which case though trespassing charges and false statements charges are still legit. Of course there's more to the case than this, she changed her story multiple times and eventually said that a person unknown to her had asked her to fly from Shanghai to Florida in order to speak to Trump. I think it would be a waste of time to try to get to the bottom of what she was up to, best way to handle this is get a quick conviction and permanently deport her back.
- rorykoehler 8y ago
  Going for a swim without a swimsuit?
  - droithomme 8y ago
    For her case that fits into the general bit where she changed her story a bunch of times. (Assuming that's the case, she alleges she never said she was there to go swimming.) In my own case as a teen, not having a swimsuit never stopped me. I definitely never had a towel since hotels provide that, it's one of the advantages of hotels vs random people's backyard pools where they definitely knew you weren't supposed to be there. Even when questioned by hotel staff (which seldom happened) saying I was with the Smiths often passed the test if I was a guest or not. Another tactic was to take the elevator up, then down and out to the pool. Never approach the pool directly from off-property. Mar-a-Lago would obviously be considerably harder to sneak into since the staff there knows who the members are even if the Secret Service doesn't.
floatingatoll 8y ago
It is inconceivable that the Secret Service permitted the leak of this level of detail to the press. That she was carrying malware makes this an espionage-class event. The intelligence community must be fuming mad that these details weren't sealed.
aaron695 8y ago
This report is garbage. You can obviously use a pool without swimming, this is also more common in Asian culture where the ability to swim is less. Maleware on a USB, WTF, she was going to what?? Hack the Planet? They found it straight up, so no zero days either. Asians often have multiple phones for different providers and businesses, 4 is maybe usual, but when overseas perhaps not. I have many friends who travel with multiple passports and some don't like leaving them in the hotel. The event was real and organised by a Charles and she had an invite! We've all snuck into resorts before and without thinking twice, is it because she did it while Asian? - (but had an invite) What exactly is the smoking gun here?

dmix 8y ago

The 4 cell phones thing and her sketchy story is suspicious. But anyone could have malware on a USB stick. Especially from China. That said this sounds way too sloppy for state espionage. Maybe it’s private? Or they are recruiting way too many people and let some bad ones in.

bredren 8y ago
It does seem like a sloppy attempt at espionage. But perhaps it worked in the past.
- willsr 8y ago
  Testing the waters maybe..
  - beenBoutIT 8y ago
    She could just be nuts.
    - bredren 8y ago
      This was actually my first thought. But I was going to call her a “random.”
yardie 8y ago
Trojan horse? Distract Secret Service agents with a clueless decoy while the real spies are sneaking around out back. Seems to be a subplot in lots of action movies.
darkpuma 8y ago
Her story is completely nonsensical, she's an awful liar. Or, is pretending to be an awful liar. Perhaps she's clever and is pretending to be a hapless rube, in an effort to diminish her perceived culpability. With spy shit like this, either is a possibility.
- deleted 8y ago
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zip1234 8y ago
Too sloppy for state espionage? In my experience, the level of competence in government varied widely. This is entirely plausible as state espionage.
- 0815test 8y ago
  Yup. Moreover, most "state espionage" and the like is really just a state-sponsored variation of garden-variety opportunistic/criminal activity that would otherwise be quite ordinary. This is something that most people might not generally realize, because there's so much focus on high-profile espionage. But that's rare and not at all the common case.
- anthony_doan 8y ago
  Seriously they destroy Iran nuclear enrichment with stuxnet by leaving usb flash drive around. The worker took it, kept it as there own and use it at the nuclear enrichment site.
papermill 8y ago
It does sound comical. Maybe the chinese are getting desperate after the huawei exec got arrested? Or maybe it's just a "setup" to apply pressure on china before the next round of trade talks. Usually espionage/intel related events are kept secret. When it's publicized, it's usually for political/trade/etc reasons. Just like how china magically found canadian "spies" in their country right after canada arrested one of their executives and used their propaganda apparatus to put pressure on canada. If this was real serious espionage, I doubt the secret service, cia, etc would release the info so quickly to the media. Does this mean the trade negotiations are not going well? Does it mean it is going well? It'll be interesting to read about the inner workings of the trade negotiations a few decades from now and what historians make of this time. Things like can only be understood in hindsight and never in the moment because we, no more than the chinese people, get to see what is really happening behind the scenes. Everyone gets the massaged and curated "news".
threeseed 8y ago
Russia has openly attacked the US, UK, EU with their online efforts. These days you don't need to be convert.

prototyperaptor 8y ago

The NYT article either leaves out that the woman was carrying Republic of China passports, or is erroneously conflating RoC and PRC.

gcb0 8y ago
it says "passaports". Do people from RoC must now have a PRC passport too after the recent occupation? I have no idea how passports work for people under the Taiwan political mess.
- jpatokal 8y ago
  > after the recent occupation ??? Taiwan citizens can get two flavors of PRC passport-equivalents for travel to the PRC: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Travel_Document https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Travel_Document https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainland_Travel_Permit_for_Taiwan_Residents https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainland_Travel_Permit_for_Tai... PRC nationals going to Taiwan need an almost-visa, but can use their PRC passport: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exit_%26_Entry_Permit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exit_%26_Entry_Permit
- A2017U1 8y ago
  My Taiwanese friend has two passports. She uses the PRC one for the mainland and ROC in the West. Basically just use whatever passport causes less trouble. It's a fairly simple arrangement

saagarjha 8y ago

> She was allowed to enter by Secret Service agents stationed outside the resort after the Mar-a-Lago security manager on duty verified that her last name matched the surname of a member of the club, according to a complaint filed in federal district court in South Florida. I mean, Zhang is a pretty common surname, so if that's the only checking they did this sounds pretty inadequate…

gcb0 8y ago

so, in summary for the article: journalists found that her story checks out. and it's related to an event organized by a prostitution entrepreneur who claims to have access to Trump, and the secret service filled in a report saying they have no idea of such event?

MeltySmelty 8y ago
Lol, hang it up, kiddo.
mxcrossb 8y ago
I think the human trafficking angle is most likely. Someone was trying to introduce her to this Ms. Yang to get her in to her business, but wasn’t aware that the event was cancelled.

mikeyouse 8y ago

Why again did we decide that it's okay for our President to spend every weekend at his private, unsecured, for-profit clubs? The Secret Service has already said they can't and won't keep a log of all guests to Mar-a-Lago. Can you imagine the number of bugs/listening devices that are already there? Dozens of foreign nationals already work there on H2B visas[1], they have open-air national security crisis response meetings in front of random Palm Beach socialites[2], he's personally profiting off of the club's increased membership fees[3] and Secret Service expenses[4], existing members included several people with criminal backgrounds and most recently the proprietor of the 'massage parlors' that ensnared Robert Kraft[5] and she was already caught selling access[6] and illegally bundling contributions[7] -- This seems like a security risk approaching the level of all the Russian weirdness. [1] - https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-mar-a-lago-club-in-florida-seeks-to-hire-40-foreign-workers/2018/07/05/5ef094b8-8099-11e8-bb6b-c1cb691f1402_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-mar-a-lago-cl... [2] - https://twitter.com/i/moments/831212884675981313?lang=en https://twitter.com/i/moments/831212884675981313?lang=en [3] - https://www.thedailybeast.com/mar-a-lago-membership-fee-doubles-to-dollar200k https://www.thedailybeast.com/mar-a-lago-membership-fee-doub... [4] - https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/405407-trumps-golf-cart-rentals-cost-taxpayers-more-than-300k-report https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/405407-trumps-go... [5] - https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/former-spa-owner-and-frequent-mar-a-lago-guest-sparks-concerns-about-porous-environment-at-presidents-club/2019/03/14/19c955a6-442e-11e9-aaf8-4512a6fe3439_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/former-spa-owner-and... [6] - https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/03/a-florida-massage-parlor-owner-has-been-selling-chinese-execs-access-to-trump-at-mar-a-lago/ https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/03/a-florida-massa... [7] - https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/03/a-florida-massage-parlor-owner-has-been-selling-chinese-execs-access-to-trump-at-mar-a-lago/ https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/03/a-florida-massa...

JumpCrisscross 8y ago
> Why again did we decide that it's okay for our President to spend every weekend at his private, unsecured, for-profit clubs? We elected him. Presidents get this purview. If this pisses you off, register to vote, volunteer for campaigns and join your local political club.

United857 8y ago

> She was allowed to enter by Secret Service agents stationed outside the resort after the Mar-a-Lago security manager on duty verified that her last name matched the surname of a member of the club, Zhang is the third most common last name in the world (source: https://www.quora.com/Whats-the-most-common-last-name-on-Earth https://www.quora.com/Whats-the-most-common-last-name-on-Ear...). Definitely a bit lax on the part of security/Secret Service to just do a last name check... I wouldn't be surprised if Chinese intelligence have exploited similar holes before.

empath75 8y ago
To be fair to the secret service, trump has put them on a terrible situation making them have to secure that place instead of using camp david like everyone else.
- avs733 8y ago
  and is charging them money to do so.
  - craftyguy 8y ago
    > and is charging them money to do so. You mean, charging us, the taxpayers, to do so.
- tenaciousDaniel 8y ago
  I live less than a mile from Mar-a-lago, and I drive by it all the time. It seems insane to do anything high-security there.
  - astrodust 8y ago
    "Seems insane." That's the administration in a nutshell.
    - godzillabrennus 8y ago

elliekelly 8y ago

Reading the article I was immediately concerned the cellphones and/or malware were used as probable cause for her arrest. Four cellphones is definitely excessive but not illegal (at one point I had three for work + a personal) and malware on a USB stick could happen to anyone. From the complaint[1] it looks like she's being charged for knowingly making false statements to gain access to a restricted area and (thankfully) not for having the phones/malware. [1] https://www.scribd.com/document/404159332/USA-v-Zhang-Complaint https://www.scribd.com/document/404159332/USA-v-Zhang-Compla...

hermitdev 8y ago
Why did you have 3 cellphones for work? That seems excesive to me. I can understand 1 for work, one for personal - I had this situation for quite a while myself. I'd prefer to only carry 1 phone, but I won't 'byod' to a company that reserves the right to remotely wipe my personal phone.
- elliekelly 8y ago
  It absolutely was excessive. I had a US work phone and two international work phones because I dealt with foreign regulators who needed to be able to contact me at a "local" phone number. I'm not sure I ever managed to have all four charged at the same time. And I learned about BYOD the hard way. I do a bit of freelance legal journalism on the side and at one point I had a Reuters email address even though I wasn't an employee and I had it set up on my personal iPhone. One day I was getting off the subway and the entire phone went blank. A complete factory reset. Reuters had accidentally wiped the personal cellphones of everyone who had set up the company email on an iPhone. I remember one guy saying he lost the video of his daughter's first footsteps. This was before companies had controls around BYOD but I will certainly never allow a company to have any access to my device again.
  - kerng 8y ago
    I do the same, I would never trust a company's IT department to have any access or administrative power over my personal phone - same goes for laptop.

gaoshan 8y ago

This will turn out to have been a mentally ill person. I seriously doubt a real intelligence operative would show up for work with multiple passports, a pile of cell phones and a cover story that hinges upon a non-existent event being scheduled.

microdrum 8y ago
OTOH, mentally ill persons might have trouble obtaining one or several passports.
ggggtez 8y ago
You can't just go around calling everyone mentally ill because you don't like the idea that this person really was a spy. There are lots of people who want to spy, not just the CPC. If it helps you sleep at night, blame a company spy from TenCent instead.

droithomme 8y ago

Comparing this to myself, I often carry two cell phones, I assume my USB drives are not infected, but have no idea if they are and if they are I wouldn't be able to tell based on what I understand of infections that live in the firmware, and when I was much younger, in my teens and early 20s, I definitely snuck into quite a few nice swimming pools at hotels and clubs, along with every one of my peers! I also snuck into a major party presidential convention once because why not, and it was educational and interesting and democratic to do so anyway. I don't have two passports, but I've heard a lot of people do. So this all sounds dodgy when they report on it like that, but there's also a chance she's just someone going for a swim. In which case though trespassing charges and false statements charges are still legit. Of course there's more to the case than this, she changed her story multiple times and eventually said that a person unknown to her had asked her to fly from Shanghai to Florida in order to speak to Trump. I think it would be a waste of time to try to get to the bottom of what she was up to, best way to handle this is get a quick conviction and permanently deport her back.

rorykoehler 8y ago
Going for a swim without a swimsuit?
- droithomme 8y ago
  For her case that fits into the general bit where she changed her story a bunch of times. (Assuming that's the case, she alleges she never said she was there to go swimming.) In my own case as a teen, not having a swimsuit never stopped me. I definitely never had a towel since hotels provide that, it's one of the advantages of hotels vs random people's backyard pools where they definitely knew you weren't supposed to be there. Even when questioned by hotel staff (which seldom happened) saying I was with the Smiths often passed the test if I was a guest or not. Another tactic was to take the elevator up, then down and out to the pool. Never approach the pool directly from off-property. Mar-a-Lago would obviously be considerably harder to sneak into since the staff there knows who the members are even if the Secret Service doesn't.

floatingatoll 8y ago

It is inconceivable that the Secret Service permitted the leak of this level of detail to the press. That she was carrying malware makes this an espionage-class event. The intelligence community must be fuming mad that these details weren't sealed.

aaron695 8y ago

This report is garbage. You can obviously use a pool without swimming, this is also more common in Asian culture where the ability to swim is less. Maleware on a USB, WTF, she was going to what?? Hack the Planet? They found it straight up, so no zero days either. Asians often have multiple phones for different providers and businesses, 4 is maybe usual, but when overseas perhaps not. I have many friends who travel with multiple passports and some don't like leaving them in the hotel. The event was real and organised by a Charles and she had an invite! We've all snuck into resorts before and without thinking twice, is it because she did it while Asian? - (but had an invite) What exactly is the smoking gun here?