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That's the dumbest fucking thing I've heard all day. How do we change this unreasonable law?

tomrod 8y ago
Corporate interests have driven us to this broken, unworkable model. I think it may end up costing a lot to get things fixed, monetarily, time, and resource-wise.
syshum 8y ago
You cant... the System that made the law is just as unreasonable and broken as the law.
Joakal 8y ago
Join a political party or support them, one was formed due to copyright: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirate_Party https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirate_Party EFF is a lobby/political group that tackles copyright issues: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/01/its-copyright-week-2019-join-us-fight-better-copyright-law-and-policy https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/01/its-copyright-week-201... You can choose to donate, spread the word, join and contribute, etc. It's slow but works sometimes. “In 1987, over half[1] Australian households had a VCR, but it only became legal to record TV shows at home in 2006.". IIRC Politicians said their children were criminals for taping their cartoons.
- Faark 8y ago
  Keep in mind that the US uses first-past-the-post voting for many elections, meaning the party with most votes takes the entire pie that was voted for. Thus not voting for one of the two biggest parties will help that other big one you like even less. Yes, this kind of system doesn't allow a diverse set of parties.
int_19h 8y ago
I apologize for being so cynical, but based on our track record, it'll take a high-profile conviction that is so obviously and blatantly unjust and contrary to the public interest, that the mass media outrage machine tunes in. Sadly, if she gets extradited, this might just be that case.
DanBC 8y ago
It's dumb because parent poster has seriously mis-represented the law.
- mschuster91 8y ago
  No, he did not. The question is: is the government allowed to go for that course? Look into why "plea deals" have exploded in popularity. People get faced with the choice between pleading guilty and getting off with a light(ish) sentence even if they are innocent in reality, or having to face the "full force" of the law which can mean a sentence longer than the live span of whole generations. The "right to due process and a fair trial" may still be there, but are you free to choose the right to due process and a fair trial if you know you can end up for life?
  - DanBC 8y ago
    > No, he did not Yes, he did. > Under most copyright laws, lets assume worst case scenario for real life example of broken laws. > If you send 100 wedding photos to your grandparents without paying photographer for copyright release. That's 100 instances of crime of copyright infringement per work, even if you didn't ask for money (commercial) This is not a crime, it isn't a criminal offence, and so the criminal sanctions do not apply. It's a civil tort. For the criminal sanctions to apply it has to meet the criteria of the crime, and that includes commercial infringement -- in the example you'd have to sell the wedding photos to the guests. Copyright law is stupid and it needs reform which is why it's important that people don't misrepresent what it actually says.

Corporate interests have driven us to this broken, unworkable model. I think it may end up costing a lot to get things fixed, monetarily, time, and resource-wise.

syshum 8y ago

You cant... the System that made the law is just as unreasonable and broken as the law.

Joakal 8y ago

Join a political party or support them, one was formed due to copyright: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirate_Party https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirate_Party EFF is a lobby/political group that tackles copyright issues: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/01/its-copyright-week-2019-join-us-fight-better-copyright-law-and-policy https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/01/its-copyright-week-201... You can choose to donate, spread the word, join and contribute, etc. It's slow but works sometimes. “In 1987, over half[1] Australian households had a VCR, but it only became legal to record TV shows at home in 2006.". IIRC Politicians said their children were criminals for taping their cartoons.

Faark 8y ago
Keep in mind that the US uses first-past-the-post voting for many elections, meaning the party with most votes takes the entire pie that was voted for. Thus not voting for one of the two biggest parties will help that other big one you like even less. Yes, this kind of system doesn't allow a diverse set of parties.

int_19h 8y ago

I apologize for being so cynical, but based on our track record, it'll take a high-profile conviction that is so obviously and blatantly unjust and contrary to the public interest, that the mass media outrage machine tunes in. Sadly, if she gets extradited, this might just be that case.

DanBC 8y ago

It's dumb because parent poster has seriously mis-represented the law.

mschuster91 8y ago
No, he did not. The question is: is the government allowed to go for that course? Look into why "plea deals" have exploded in popularity. People get faced with the choice between pleading guilty and getting off with a light(ish) sentence even if they are innocent in reality, or having to face the "full force" of the law which can mean a sentence longer than the live span of whole generations. The "right to due process and a fair trial" may still be there, but are you free to choose the right to due process and a fair trial if you know you can end up for life?
- DanBC 8y ago
  > No, he did not Yes, he did. > Under most copyright laws, lets assume worst case scenario for real life example of broken laws. > If you send 100 wedding photos to your grandparents without paying photographer for copyright release. That's 100 instances of crime of copyright infringement per work, even if you didn't ask for money (commercial) This is not a crime, it isn't a criminal offence, and so the criminal sanctions do not apply. It's a civil tort. For the criminal sanctions to apply it has to meet the criteria of the crime, and that includes commercial infringement -- in the example you'd have to sell the wedding photos to the guests. Copyright law is stupid and it needs reform which is why it's important that people don't misrepresent what it actually says.