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You're falsely equating two scenarios and saying that since the government lied in one heinous act, that means the government is lying about something entirely
by fzeroracer 8y ago
You're falsely equating two scenarios and saying that since the government lied in one heinous act, that means the government is lying about something entirely different as well.
Your point about the government lying about vaccines for the sake of public health is almost irrelevant, because that standard is applicable to everything the government does. Are our roads actually paved using the bones of children? No one knows, but the government would have a vested interest in lying about it because roads are important for American society.
You could use that logic to question everything and anything, but it doesn't say whether or not your base proposition is actually logically sound.
It doesn't help that the anti-vaxxer movement is a global one, not just an American one. Which means you would again have to consider somehow there's a global conspiracy surrounding vaccines in order to downplay the injuries they do to people.
Now is this to say vaccines don't have potentially harmful side effects? Well no, anyone that has read the research recognizes this fact. Including myself, considering I had an adverse reaction to vaccines as a child that was almost deadly. However the anti-vaxxer movement is not nor had it ever been about discussing the rational and factual effects of vaccines both positive and negative, it's been about perpetuating bunk science or conspiracies for the sake of an illogical set of beliefs.
- mirimir 8y agoI do agree with you about risk vs benefit for vaccines. It's totally obvious that widespread vaccination has vastly improved human health. No question about it. However, as you say, there are occasional adverse reactions to vaccination. And how that's perceived is very different for individuals vs public-health systems. Public-health systems focus on reductions in epidemic risk. And they address adverse reactions by compensating those affected. But individuals see only the adverse reactions. In themselves or their kids, if they're unlucky. Or in news from family and friends, or in news reports. Statistics about effects of mass vaccination on public health are just too abstract. And on top of all that, as I've argued, governments have often lied. And do lie. For many reasons. The EPA is lying on a huge scale, now, in rolling back various protective rules.
- linuxftw 8y ago> considering I had an adverse reaction to vaccines as a child that was almost deadly. Reported to VAERS? Compensated by NVIC? Most likely not since it's almost impossible to get the average doctor to report into VAERS.