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Pretty soon web traffic will be decrypted and rendered via site specific web assembly blobs that will do everything in their power to defeat custom rendering.

by tux1968 8y ago

Pretty soon web traffic will be decrypted and rendered via site specific web assembly blobs that will do everything in their power to defeat custom rendering. The modern web has just begun, and the powers that be are still grappling with its control. So we're still living in a comparative wild-west, but you can see the writing on the wall in every direction you look online right now.

samstave 8y ago
We ahould be doing exactly this in opposite: Anti ad exit node proxies. Basically an ecryoted proxy connection to a powerful ad stripping instance that will randomize and pipe all that shit to dev null, and reply to trackers with addesses of their competing ad systems. So that every ad for “microsoft” appears as though its being used by apple users...
- lbotos 8y ago
  Ah yes, but then who controls those servers? A lot of people think that US Government agents own enough TOR nodes to de-anonymize.
  - userbinator 8y ago
    To be fair, in my experience there seem to be a lot more people frustrated with ads than scared of the government. Someone who wants privacy/anonymity is likely to not want ads, but I think those who don't want ads is actually a larger group.
    - metildaa 8y ago
      Why would a browser or extension client side not be better? Adding an intermediary would add latency needlessly...
      - samstave 8y ago
        Because blocking at the cloent edge node already has had the bandwidth consumed from the carriers end provided, no?
      - userbinator 8y ago
        It's not always possible to even modify the client, think of the embedded browsers in "smart" devices as well as the increasingly-locked-down mobile platforms. But as long as installing your own certificates still works, you can continue to MITM your traffic and modify it before it gets to the client(s).
chongli 8y ago
This is why we need to build a JavaScript-free web. Just plain old HTML and CSS. With no cookies either. And a search engine that only indexes pages that conform to these rules.

samstave 8y ago

We ahould be doing exactly this in opposite: Anti ad exit node proxies. Basically an ecryoted proxy connection to a powerful ad stripping instance that will randomize and pipe all that shit to dev null, and reply to trackers with addesses of their competing ad systems. So that every ad for “microsoft” appears as though its being used by apple users...

lbotos 8y ago
Ah yes, but then who controls those servers? A lot of people think that US Government agents own enough TOR nodes to de-anonymize.
- userbinator 8y ago
  To be fair, in my experience there seem to be a lot more people frustrated with ads than scared of the government. Someone who wants privacy/anonymity is likely to not want ads, but I think those who don't want ads is actually a larger group.
  - metildaa 8y ago
    Why would a browser or extension client side not be better? Adding an intermediary would add latency needlessly...
    - samstave 8y ago
      Because blocking at the cloent edge node already has had the bandwidth consumed from the carriers end provided, no?
    - userbinator 8y ago
      It's not always possible to even modify the client, think of the embedded browsers in "smart" devices as well as the increasingly-locked-down mobile platforms. But as long as installing your own certificates still works, you can continue to MITM your traffic and modify it before it gets to the client(s).

chongli 8y ago

This is why we need to build a JavaScript-free web. Just plain old HTML and CSS. With no cookies either. And a search engine that only indexes pages that conform to these rules.