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@intelliderp you got buried. I'd love to see links to such anti-union hn discussions. I kinda get that HN is very capitalistic and unions check reckless capital
by morenoh149 8y ago
@intelliderp you got buried. I'd love to see links to such anti-union hn discussions. I kinda get that HN is very capitalistic and unions check reckless capitalism. But at the same time HN is very dev focused and unions promise larger benefits/money to devs.
I'll go on the record saying I'm pro dev union. Even if its just a glorified professional organization. I'd love to hear the holes in the argument.
The corporations are financially motivated to prevent unionization. If you want a piece of the future you have to be just as savvy.
One tricky bit is if unionizing just causes a massive exodus of development to offshore. Thoughts on that?
- steveklabnik 8y agoHere's a recent HN discussion about unions: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19433610 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19433610 You can read the thread and draw your own conclusions. My impression is taken from reading a number of these threads over years; I could be wrong!
- morenoh149 8y agoMy guess is that that sentiment arises from the meritocratic attitude that if you are disproportionately talented you should be compensated much much more. And I get that. To a point. I don't like when corporations collude to artificially suppress wages either. Or when information asymmetry is used to keep an engineer's salary low or prevent negotiating higher salaries. I'll read that discussion.
- intelliderp 8y agoYeah, I'm apparently shadow-banned on HN for some users. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13564440 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13564440 Arguments often encountered: * Compensation/mobility is good enough not to need unions. * Workers don't have enough leverage to do anything anyway. * Unions restrict you in undesirable ways. * Unions are shady and corrupt.