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Not that I condone the wireless companies selling this kind of data, but if you're in a situation where a bounty hunter is after you, step one is don't carry a

Not that I condone the wireless companies selling this kind of data, but if you're in a situation where a bounty hunter is after you, step one is don't carry a mobile phone.

astrodust 8y ago
Step 2 is to never sign up for utilities under your real name or fill in product registration cards.
- Proof 8y ago
  Most important step, don’t put yourself in a situation, where a bounty hunter is after you to begin with.
  - TooCleverByHalf 8y ago
    If you think privacy is unimportant for you because you have nothing to hide, you might as well say free speech is unimportant for you because you have nothing useful to say.
    - XorNot 8y ago
      Law enforcement depends on the fact that no individual can reliably evade the power of the state for very long. The existence of bounty hunters is in some ways just a bizzare commercialisation of what should be a government function.
  - astrodust 8y ago
    You can do nothing wrong and still end up in this situation. For example, get involved in a messy divorce, get out-lawyered, end up on the hook for astronomical amounts of retroactive child support. If you're not careful you might be dealing with a lot more than just the repo man. Plus the way the legal system is in the US, a single unpaid parking ticket could spiral completely out of control into tens of thousands in late payment fees, fines, and jail time.
pseudolus 8y ago
Or at least keep it in a Faraday pouch/bag.
- OrgNet 8y ago
  Doesn't a Faraday cage need to be grounded therefore limiting your movements?
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moate 8y ago
Replace "bounty hunter" with "random jerk who is aware of these channels and how to use them," as the person who's after you. That group is small, but non-zero. The issue is that these tools 1- exist 2- aren't kept under the tightest lock and key possible. Because any schmuck can get access to them for the right price, nobody should have a cell phone if we put the onus on the victims.
- craftyguy 8y ago
  > Replace "bounty hunter" with "random jerk who is aware of these channels and how to use them," as the person who's after you. That group is small, but non-zero. Or an abusive partner..
  - anitil 8y ago
    That is terrifying
SilasX 8y ago
Couldn't you carry one as long as it was a burner you bought with cash? Is that still possible?
narag 8y ago
step one is don't carry a mobile phone You can carry one if you don't use it to contact people you know. But of course you will, ignoring the advice from the tough guy that's trying to save you, according to every movie ever touching the subject. More sophisticated attacks would identify your usage pattern, the date you bought the new phone, the train that sounds in the background or even the fact that you log in in your favourite cat videos site.

Not that I condone the wireless companies selling this kind of data, but if you're in a situation where a bounty hunter is after you, step one is don't carry a mobile phone.

astrodust 8y ago

Step 2 is to never sign up for utilities under your real name or fill in product registration cards.

Proof 8y ago
Most important step, don’t put yourself in a situation, where a bounty hunter is after you to begin with.
- TooCleverByHalf 8y ago
  If you think privacy is unimportant for you because you have nothing to hide, you might as well say free speech is unimportant for you because you have nothing useful to say.
  - XorNot 8y ago
    Law enforcement depends on the fact that no individual can reliably evade the power of the state for very long. The existence of bounty hunters is in some ways just a bizzare commercialisation of what should be a government function.
- astrodust 8y ago
  You can do nothing wrong and still end up in this situation. For example, get involved in a messy divorce, get out-lawyered, end up on the hook for astronomical amounts of retroactive child support. If you're not careful you might be dealing with a lot more than just the repo man. Plus the way the legal system is in the US, a single unpaid parking ticket could spiral completely out of control into tens of thousands in late payment fees, fines, and jail time.

pseudolus 8y ago

Or at least keep it in a Faraday pouch/bag.

OrgNet 8y ago
Doesn't a Faraday cage need to be grounded therefore limiting your movements?

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moate 8y ago

Replace "bounty hunter" with "random jerk who is aware of these channels and how to use them," as the person who's after you. That group is small, but non-zero. The issue is that these tools 1- exist 2- aren't kept under the tightest lock and key possible. Because any schmuck can get access to them for the right price, nobody should have a cell phone if we put the onus on the victims.

craftyguy 8y ago
> Replace "bounty hunter" with "random jerk who is aware of these channels and how to use them," as the person who's after you. That group is small, but non-zero. Or an abusive partner..
- anitil 8y ago
  That is terrifying

SilasX 8y ago

Couldn't you carry one as long as it was a burner you bought with cash? Is that still possible?

narag 8y ago

step one is don't carry a mobile phone You can carry one if you don't use it to contact people you know. But of course you will, ignoring the advice from the tough guy that's trying to save you, according to every movie ever touching the subject. More sophisticated attacks would identify your usage pattern, the date you bought the new phone, the train that sounds in the background or even the fact that you log in in your favourite cat videos site.