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This seems like a lot of work, and personally, I don't see it as being much more than begging. Sure, it's begging successfully, but it's still begging. Worse, i

This seems like a lot of work, and personally, I don't see it as being much more than begging. Sure, it's begging successfully, but it's still begging. Worse, it could be considered a form of fraud. You have no intention of providing real value to your "advertisers". Maybe I have different values, not having grown up in the US of A, but I don't think I could ever pull off such a disingenuous enterprise. Edit: OP literally admits to stealing content. I could see something similar to this being more legitimate, but this is not it. (For the record the insta is @beautiful.[redacted] and almost all of the followers are bots)

golergka 8y ago
How is advertising them to tens of thousands of real followers not valuable?
- MattLeBlanc001 8y ago
  Do we know they are "real" followers?
rootusrootus 8y ago
> Maybe I have different values, not having grown up in the US of A This gets really, really tiresome after a while.
emilfihlman 8y ago
The value proposition is very clear and not fraudulent or are you saying that stuff build by robots is fraud? Here's what is being exchanged: Hi, I have lots of followers (to my knowledge they are not bots themselves) that I can present advertisements to. Many of them are either interested in NYC or located here. Would you like to Ie: let's exchange visibility (for this target group) for perks. This is the basis of advertising, just that perks is money. It's not the person asking for money who might be an idiot, it's the person paying if the value provided does not match. And frankly exchanging visibility for perks instead of money is extremely cheap for restaurants. If the value does not match what the restaurant was after, they can not accept such proposals anymore. There's risk in being in business, you just have to accept that.
delinka 8y ago
> ... not having grown up in the US of A, but I don't think I could ever pull off such a disingenuous enterprise. Regardless of where we draw the line for "disingenuous," You can't seriously be suggested that only people in the US come up with such schemes. A recent thread (yesterday) on Another Site (I'm sure you've read it - the site, but not the thread) that indicated to me visiting places around the world is a fine way to get fleeced by individuals (locals, not Americans) with disingenuous schemes.
Grustaf 8y ago
It’s not begging, begging is not immoral. This is stealing.
baddox 8y ago
Huh? The benefit to the restaurant is exactly as promised. The only ethical concern that I see is that all the content is grabbed from other sources (the author claims to give proper attribution).

golergka 8y ago

How is advertising them to tens of thousands of real followers not valuable?

MattLeBlanc001 8y ago
Do we know they are "real" followers?

rootusrootus 8y ago

> Maybe I have different values, not having grown up in the US of A This gets really, really tiresome after a while.

emilfihlman 8y ago

The value proposition is very clear and not fraudulent or are you saying that stuff build by robots is fraud? Here's what is being exchanged: Hi, I have lots of followers (to my knowledge they are not bots themselves) that I can present advertisements to. Many of them are either interested in NYC or located here. Would you like to Ie: let's exchange visibility (for this target group) for perks. This is the basis of advertising, just that perks is money. It's not the person asking for money who might be an idiot, it's the person paying if the value provided does not match. And frankly exchanging visibility for perks instead of money is extremely cheap for restaurants. If the value does not match what the restaurant was after, they can not accept such proposals anymore. There's risk in being in business, you just have to accept that.

delinka 8y ago

> ... not having grown up in the US of A, but I don't think I could ever pull off such a disingenuous enterprise. Regardless of where we draw the line for "disingenuous," You can't seriously be suggested that only people in the US come up with such schemes. A recent thread (yesterday) on Another Site (I'm sure you've read it - the site, but not the thread) that indicated to me visiting places around the world is a fine way to get fleeced by individuals (locals, not Americans) with disingenuous schemes.

Grustaf 8y ago

It’s not begging, begging is not immoral. This is stealing.

baddox 8y ago

Huh? The benefit to the restaurant is exactly as promised. The only ethical concern that I see is that all the content is grabbed from other sources (the author claims to give proper attribution).