Isn't Canonical also operating at a loss even after it's massive success? I don't think I've seen anything definitive about it's success as a commercial offerin

Isn't Canonical also operating at a loss even after it's massive success? I don't think I've seen anything definitive about it's success as a commercial offering, but I can say I rarely meet commercial Canonical consumers but I regularly meet commercial SUSE and RedHat customers. If Canonical is sold, I doubt it would be for nearly as much as SUSE or RHEL. The general consensus seems to be that Ubuntu is for new users, while SUSE and RHEL are for serious customers, and that's far more important than most other features from an enterprise perspective (nobody ever got fired for choosing RHEL/SUSE). And yeah, I also would be very interested in the paying install base. Personally, I'm switching to SUSE because there's a supported path from Tumbleweed to SUSE, and Ubuntu has caused me far too much pain for me to trust them with my money and my business. Ubuntu just doesn't seem to know what it wants to be when it grows up, and that's a problem that SUSE and RHEL have solved long ago.