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You have to look through the geopolitical aspect. Treaties, historically have been favorable for those who ride the high horse, bystanders gut mud slung upon th

by glax 8y ago

You have to look through the geopolitical aspect. Treaties, historically have been favorable for those who ride the high horse, bystanders gut mud slung upon them. In the 60's India was pressurized not to develop Nuclear bombs, but it was secretly known pakistan was developing it with the help of china and stolen tech. If India had signed the NPT back then, it would not have have anykind of deterrence action against Pakistan where they had full scale war and USA coming to pakistans's Aid when India was trying to liberate East Pakistan where there was full scale genocide of ethnic Bangla people going, that we now know as Bangladesh. They developed the bombs but with a no first use policy. Now in 2019 with 2 front war with both Pakistan and china, where both party have actively militarized the border with them and playing the proxy war it was sure coming. China vetoing 2 times action against J-E-M terrorist group based in Pakistan that are active in insurgency in Jammu and Kashmir state of India. They are also actively claiming the state of Arunachal Pradesh as the territory like they did with Tibet China has also amassed large number of military installation near the North-Eastern border of India and have actively tried en roaching into Indian territories, several kilometers sometimes into the past few year resulting in border skirmishes sometimes. Last time India declined the UNSC seat and gave it to china & they are still regretting the the decision. They are hoping the next NPT for Space will have India's seat already reserved. If other nations are going to play game of dual diplomacy it's leaves no option but to demonstrate show of force. India cannot afford to become Another Ukraine, Tibet or Taiwan becomes some other nation can abuse it's power. Edit:Will provide citation in 2 hours currently in Mobile.

saiya-jin 8y ago
No need to back your statements, these are (hopefully) generally known historical facts. I still don't understand why US decided to support horrible unstable dictatorship in Pakistan instead of biggest democracy in the world in the past. Unless I am mistaken India was always a victim in aggression of its neighbors - 1999 Kashmir conflict when Pakistan invaded sovereign Indian territory, China doing the same and annexing a lot of mountains and acting till today like it was eternally their territory). If India put their sh*t (economy) together, toughened/equipped up their military I think this behavior would stop.
- devnonymous 8y ago
  > I still don't understand why US decided to support horrible unstable dictatorship in Pakistan instead of biggest democracy in the world in the past. Current India was born as the Socialist democratic Republic of India and had closer relations to the former USSR than the US, so naturally, the US aligned itself with Pakistan. > Unless I am mistaken India was always a victim in aggression of its neighbors You are mistaken. India has been an aggressor as much as a victim. Of course that's not to say the scale of aggression was like colonial powers but India is definitely not doodh-ka-dhula. > If India put their sht (economy) together, toughened/equipped up their military I think this behavior would stop. No. India needs to get its basics right -- Food, health care, education. The problem is /not/ the economy. If the so called 'educated' population of India actually made use of their education to participate in their democracy they would realize that economically speaking, India is not in a terribly bad state, however, the standard of life is sht as you put it, because very less focus has been put on the basics. In the history of the world there hasn't been any single successful empire or country which got to where it was while ignoring the health, nutrition and education of its people.
  - setum 8y ago
    > Current India was born as the Socialist democratic Republic of India and had closer relations to the former USSR than the US, so naturally, the US aligned itself with Pakistan. Not true. In-fact just the opposite. India started non-aligned movement and tried to remain non-aligned to the extent possible. Pakistan joined SEATO in 1954[1], India-Russia relations started a year later in 1955[2] Also, India was not born Socialist, although it may have socialist policies - much like any other country. First mention of socialism was in 1976 [3] > You are mistaken. India has been an aggressor as much as a victim. I think you could easily have add examples to support your claim rather than making statements [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southeast_Asia_Treaty_Organization https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southeast_Asia_Treaty_Organiza... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India%E2%80%93Russia_relations#Soviet_Union_and_India https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India%E2%80%93Russia_relations... [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_socialist_states#Current_countries_with_constitutional_references_to_socialism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_socialist_states#Curre...

by glax 8y ago

saiya-jin 8y ago

No need to back your statements, these are (hopefully) generally known historical facts. I still don't understand why US decided to support horrible unstable dictatorship in Pakistan instead of biggest democracy in the world in the past. Unless I am mistaken India was always a victim in aggression of its neighbors - 1999 Kashmir conflict when Pakistan invaded sovereign Indian territory, China doing the same and annexing a lot of mountains and acting till today like it was eternally their territory). If India put their sh*t (economy) together, toughened/equipped up their military I think this behavior would stop.

devnonymous 8y ago
> I still don't understand why US decided to support horrible unstable dictatorship in Pakistan instead of biggest democracy in the world in the past. Current India was born as the Socialist democratic Republic of India and had closer relations to the former USSR than the US, so naturally, the US aligned itself with Pakistan. > Unless I am mistaken India was always a victim in aggression of its neighbors You are mistaken. India has been an aggressor as much as a victim. Of course that's not to say the scale of aggression was like colonial powers but India is definitely not doodh-ka-dhula. > If India put their sht (economy) together, toughened/equipped up their military I think this behavior would stop. No. India needs to get its basics right -- Food, health care, education. The problem is /not/ the economy. If the so called 'educated' population of India actually made use of their education to participate in their democracy they would realize that economically speaking, India is not in a terribly bad state, however, the standard of life is sht as you put it, because very less focus has been put on the basics. In the history of the world there hasn't been any single successful empire or country which got to where it was while ignoring the health, nutrition and education of its people.
- setum 8y ago
  > Current India was born as the Socialist democratic Republic of India and had closer relations to the former USSR than the US, so naturally, the US aligned itself with Pakistan. Not true. In-fact just the opposite. India started non-aligned movement and tried to remain non-aligned to the extent possible. Pakistan joined SEATO in 1954[1], India-Russia relations started a year later in 1955[2] Also, India was not born Socialist, although it may have socialist policies - much like any other country. First mention of socialism was in 1976 [3] > You are mistaken. India has been an aggressor as much as a victim. I think you could easily have add examples to support your claim rather than making statements [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southeast_Asia_Treaty_Organization https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southeast_Asia_Treaty_Organiza... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India%E2%80%93Russia_relations#Soviet_Union_and_India https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India%E2%80%93Russia_relations... [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_socialist_states#Current_countries_with_constitutional_references_to_socialism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_socialist_states#Curre...