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<Deep breath> 1) Whataboutism doesn't help anyone. Two wrongs don't make a right. 2) India has the hindsight of history that the US and earlier Space programs

<Deep breath> 1) Whataboutism doesn't help anyone. Two wrongs don't make a right. 2) India has the hindsight of history that the US and earlier Space programs didn't. Humanity did not consider these kinds of things earlier. Space was treated as essentially infinite. We now know better and know that this debree can cause a real threat to future space missions, even in the worst case dooming humanity to Earth as a prison[1]. By the way, the same applies to carbon emissions. Yes, the West got to industrialize by rampantly polluting the world. No, that doesn't mean China and India get a free pass for it. Also, to the exploitation of countries/economies/people below you on the totem pole. Again, no free pass for what China is doing in Africa just because Europe did it for hundreds of years. 3) This is a slightly different point from (2), but back when Russia and US were rampantly launching rockets into space and exploding satellites, there wasn't a permanently occupied space station in orbit, crewed continuously by human beings from an international peaceful cooperating collective. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS1ibDImAYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS1ibDImAYU

reitzensteinm 8y ago
Who is giving China and India a free pass? It seems to me that the opposite is happening, where they're behind and very far behind the per capita emissions of Western countries respectively yet we're giving them shit instead of getting our own house in order.
saiya-jin 8y ago
Well, this was a political move, nothing more (or less). I presume you know about recent bombings in Kashmir, sovereign part of Indian territory since its creation of 1947. Done by terrorists most probably trained and equipped in Pakistan. Their secret service is very happy to do these kind of activities, not caring much who is current Pakistani president du jour. Kind of state within the state. Where was/is US? Still supporting Pakistan, it really doesn't matter much what they do. Together with China. In light of these facts it doesn't seem so shocking, they had to do something. It doesn't make it right either obviously for all the reasons stated here, but I blame US and its stupid foreign policies for these kind of senseless escalations.

reitzensteinm 8y ago

Who is giving China and India a free pass? It seems to me that the opposite is happening, where they're behind and very far behind the per capita emissions of Western countries respectively yet we're giving them shit instead of getting our own house in order.

saiya-jin 8y ago

Well, this was a political move, nothing more (or less). I presume you know about recent bombings in Kashmir, sovereign part of Indian territory since its creation of 1947. Done by terrorists most probably trained and equipped in Pakistan. Their secret service is very happy to do these kind of activities, not caring much who is current Pakistani president du jour. Kind of state within the state. Where was/is US? Still supporting Pakistan, it really doesn't matter much what they do. Together with China. In light of these facts it doesn't seem so shocking, they had to do something. It doesn't make it right either obviously for all the reasons stated here, but I blame US and its stupid foreign policies for these kind of senseless escalations.