> That's not a reasonable aim for positive effects on depression. If we can get positive effects from regular exercise, it's great. If it requires patients to g

> That's not a reasonable aim for positive effects on depression. If we can get positive effects from regular exercise, it's great. If it requires patients to get 'fit', it's really not. In my opinion, if you are not fit, then it won't have as good effect as it would otherwise. That might be.. jarring a little bit, but I don't think an obese person can workout 30 minutes and then call it a day, and believe he'll reap the benefits. Maybe I am wrong, but I don't think it is so. So the goal should always be to get in great shape, the best you can get (in your circumstances, I mean; age/cardiovascular fitness/joint health etc.) Our default mode should be being fit and everything else an abomination. > This: "change your approach to exercising, eating, sleeping, etc. There will be things that you have to sacrifice" is one of the hardest things to do in life. Sorry, I just fail to realize how can someone consciously think that this is one of the hardest thing in life. We have really way different view of life, then. To me, it takes some work, but it's not even hard. It's just something you do for couple of hours in your day, that's all. And the best part? There's no downside for you. Better health, mental and physical, longevity, mood, etc..