That’s my point. It’s not news and as long as you keep thinking on those lines we will not be able to help people we care about. Stop thinking about news. Thi

That’s my point. It’s not news and as long as you keep thinking on those lines we will not be able to help people we care about. Stop thinking about news. Think of everything as content. You are on HN because you like the content. The fact that it’s true and tangible are bonuses - they match your interest. The content on some websites in 2014 that the “govt was going to create a database on ‘hate speech’” is also content. It got picked up and spun into “news”. It wasn’t true. But it still got spread and there was eventually a congressional hearing on it or something in America. The solutions you are discussing are irrelevant. They aren’t aware of findings that show that one of the fundamental problems with social media is human attention span. By adding more sources you only add more competiton to that limited resource. This means that you get a winner take all system as people de clutter their feeds and listen to only the most viral and engaging content. ———— I am saying that tonunderstand the world today, you have to turn things on their head. There’s no such thing as “news”. Everything is effectively fake news for the larger population. Real news just has the benefit of being from people trying to closely mirror reality. This is the ontological error pervasive in discussions on HN. The real horror is what we actually face - that “real news” is essentially the same as “fake news” to a large amount of the population. They couldn’t make out the difference on their own. Dress up “content” correctly and it’s “news”.