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It's insane that the two visible options are "Not now" and "Allow notifications" while 99 percent of the time I want never bother me again, in fact disable this

It's insane that the two visible options are "Not now" and "Allow notifications" while 99 percent of the time I want never bother me again, in fact disable this feature entirely. I clicked yes exactly 3 times (my own Nextcloud instance, Protonmail and Whatsapp web), I'd be happy to do some more clicking to enable those at the "cost" of never being bugged again.

josteink 8y ago
> It's insane that the two visible options are "Not now" and "Allow notifications" I agree the “Never” option could be more visible for some prompts, like notification. For other things, like location data, where temporal access actually makes sense, I think making the “Never”-option less susceptible to accidental/blind clicking is a good idea.
- codedokode 8y ago
  Then "Allow" should be less susceptible as well.
giancarlostoro 8y ago
I was beginning to wonder if I can disable globally by default and have no popups, just manually enable it for a specific site if I want it badly enough (I don't think I ever will anyway). Of course then they'll start showing weird UI pop ups to enable stuff, but if websites ever do that I will close them as I do with sites that tell me to disable adblock, the last few times I ever got malware on my system was due to ads, I am NEVER turning off adblock. This was many years ago, now I only download FLOSS just to keep it that way.
- robinwassen 8y ago
  User script that overrides the API to noop. :)
  - giancarlostoro 8y ago
    I'm just bummed the old greasemonkey site is gone (or whatever it was called), it feels awkward trying to find scripts now.
    - airstrike 8y ago
      I'm even more bummed the old stylish plugin was really malware https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/07/05/browsers_pull_stylish_but_invasive_browser_extension/ https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/07/05/browsers_pull_styli...
      - giancarlostoro 8y ago
        Eventually, it wasn't always so but yes that's disappointing.
- lkbm 8y ago
  Open Preferences and search "Notif". There's a blascklist/whitelist and a "no, and don't ever ask" checkbox. I've always loved digging into the settings when I get a new web browser, IDE, or whatever. I know a lot of people don't bother configuring their software, but it just makes me shudder to imagine living with whatever defaults the vendor sets.
ehnto 8y ago
It's such a passive agressive tactic. It boggles the mind that it's the browser vendors that implemented it. Google spent years blocking popups to the point where I never get them anymore, which is amazing, but clearly they learned a few nasty tricks along the way.
- driverdan 8y ago
  It's not passive.
jacurtis 8y ago
This is a valid point. I just took an inventory of all the notifications I have opted into. For me it is Gmail, Discord, Slack, and a custom built admin interface I use for work. So I have accepted 4 out of the hundreds (or thousands) of notification prompts I see every year. Making it opt-in would still allow valid use cases for notifications, while not annoying users as it has become for sites that are just hoping ou would break down and accept. I also hate that the only "negative" option is "not now". Why is there not a "never allow" option?

josteink 8y ago

> It's insane that the two visible options are "Not now" and "Allow notifications" I agree the “Never” option could be more visible for some prompts, like notification. For other things, like location data, where temporal access actually makes sense, I think making the “Never”-option less susceptible to accidental/blind clicking is a good idea.

codedokode 8y ago
Then "Allow" should be less susceptible as well.

giancarlostoro 8y ago

I was beginning to wonder if I can disable globally by default and have no popups, just manually enable it for a specific site if I want it badly enough (I don't think I ever will anyway). Of course then they'll start showing weird UI pop ups to enable stuff, but if websites ever do that I will close them as I do with sites that tell me to disable adblock, the last few times I ever got malware on my system was due to ads, I am NEVER turning off adblock. This was many years ago, now I only download FLOSS just to keep it that way.

robinwassen 8y ago
User script that overrides the API to noop. :)
- giancarlostoro 8y ago
  I'm just bummed the old greasemonkey site is gone (or whatever it was called), it feels awkward trying to find scripts now.
  - airstrike 8y ago
    I'm even more bummed the old stylish plugin was really malware https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/07/05/browsers_pull_stylish_but_invasive_browser_extension/ https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/07/05/browsers_pull_styli...
    - giancarlostoro 8y ago
      Eventually, it wasn't always so but yes that's disappointing.
lkbm 8y ago
Open Preferences and search "Notif". There's a blascklist/whitelist and a "no, and don't ever ask" checkbox. I've always loved digging into the settings when I get a new web browser, IDE, or whatever. I know a lot of people don't bother configuring their software, but it just makes me shudder to imagine living with whatever defaults the vendor sets.

ehnto 8y ago

It's such a passive agressive tactic. It boggles the mind that it's the browser vendors that implemented it. Google spent years blocking popups to the point where I never get them anymore, which is amazing, but clearly they learned a few nasty tricks along the way.

driverdan 8y ago
It's not passive.

jacurtis 8y ago

This is a valid point. I just took an inventory of all the notifications I have opted into. For me it is Gmail, Discord, Slack, and a custom built admin interface I use for work. So I have accepted 4 out of the hundreds (or thousands) of notification prompts I see every year. Making it opt-in would still allow valid use cases for notifications, while not annoying users as it has become for sites that are just hoping ou would break down and accept. I also hate that the only "negative" option is "not now". Why is there not a "never allow" option?