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As long as the websites that request the permission have a legitimate reason to show notifications, a dialog is actually a good idea - it makes it easy for user
by 43920 8y ago
As long as the websites that request the permission have a legitimate reason to show notifications, a dialog is actually a good idea - it makes it easy for users to enable notifications, whereas a toolbar button would be easy to miss. If browsers had anticipated every random news site asking to show notifications, I imagine it would have been designed differently.
- lugg 8y agoNo, it's not. Currently on legitimate and decently built sites I get a custom JS modal popup that asks me to accept the location request before they even request location access. They do this because otherwise their location request gets dismissed by users out of habbit and then people don't know how to reenable it. It's shit UX. Notifications and always on location access should be a bell icon in the url bar. Think YouTube notifications. On top of that, there should be a "use location" html element that sets it's value to the current location when clicked. It would also be nice if that threw up a warning when proxy settings are detected.
- feanaro 8y agoI think this bell meme is less widespread than you think. I can't imagine the people I know concluding that the notification permission is hidden under a bell icon, let alone find it intuitive.
- _nedR 8y agoAu contraire, i think the bell meme is more widespread than you think. Taking India as an example, the lower levels of literacy has actually made video content the primary form of online content. And with youtube being one of the major portals of such content and with every youtuber in every corner of the globe nagging subscibers (in their native language) to click that bell icon i think it has already spread to a large demographic.
- lugg 8y agoI wasn't claiming it was well known, in this case I don't think it matters. I assumed anyone that really cares would throw up an arrow and some blinking text pointing at it. Yes, this will be ugly, just like every site I visit asking if they can send me private messages whenever they want is ugly. That said, the bell icon not being intuitive doesnt stop YouTube. Likewise, channels switched to "like, comment, subscribe, and don't forget to hit the bell." Literally overnight. I just see this concern as a non issue.
- dillondoyle 8y agoAlso because some browsers once you deny you can't re-request. but you can show as many html 'overlay prompts' as you want
- luckylion 8y agoDidn't they? It sounds strange to assume that nobody ever wondered how this feature might be abused - it's not like that hasn't happened before in the history of browsers.
- _nedR 8y agoIt is literally being used to abuse less tech literate ppl (elderly, children, non english speakers, non-tech savvy people, people from third world countries). Such people just click yes yes yes to these popups without reading them (thinking theyre EU cookie, T&C, privacy prompts, etc). Its a prime vector for malwartisements these days.