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> bootlicking drivel Who's boots? What are you talking about? I didn't make a single value judgement in favor of one system or the other! Be civil! > abolish

> bootlicking drivel Who's boots? What are you talking about? I didn't make a single value judgement in favor of one system or the other! Be civil! > abolishing capitalism in favour of socialism > There are even variants of socialism that embrace markets and competition, and almost all allow ownership of _personal_ means of production... Socialism and capitalism are not opposite ends of a yardstick. I am _not talking about socialism_. Limiting the ability to own property or trade _is the same thing_ as limiting freedom. One has literally limited the abilities of another. These are not opinions, but rather _pure deduction lead to a non-controversial point_. You can keep insulting me or you can engage. Have a good day!

kjdndisneinj 8y ago
The boots of the oppressive global capital class. > I didn't make a single value judgement in favor of one system or the other! You asserted that the abolition of capitalism would result in depravation of freedom. That is a value judgement. It is also not true. It is a rephrasing of a line that anti-socialsts have been using for over 100 years. Therefore, propaganda. I don't care that you're trying to hide the structural violence of capitalism under a veil of civility.
kjdndisneinj 8y ago
Missed the edit: > Socialism and capitalism are not opposite ends of a yardstick. I am _not talking about socialism_. Limiting the ability to own property or trade _is the same thing_ as limiting freedom. One has literally limited the abilities of another. These are not opinions, but rather _pure deduction lead to a non-controversial point_. You have a definition of capitalism that has very little to do with any sort of modern (.. like, post 1800's) political theory... so we're obviously not going to get anywhere. In the meantime, can you hook me up with your acid dealer? Got those good 250 µg tabs?

kjdndisneinj 8y ago

The boots of the oppressive global capital class. > I didn't make a single value judgement in favor of one system or the other! You asserted that the abolition of capitalism would result in depravation of freedom. That is a value judgement. It is also not true. It is a rephrasing of a line that anti-socialsts have been using for over 100 years. Therefore, propaganda. I don't care that you're trying to hide the structural violence of capitalism under a veil of civility.

kjdndisneinj 8y ago

Missed the edit: > Socialism and capitalism are not opposite ends of a yardstick. I am _not talking about socialism_. Limiting the ability to own property or trade _is the same thing_ as limiting freedom. One has literally limited the abilities of another. These are not opinions, but rather _pure deduction lead to a non-controversial point_. You have a definition of capitalism that has very little to do with any sort of modern (.. like, post 1800's) political theory... so we're obviously not going to get anywhere. In the meantime, can you hook me up with your acid dealer? Got those good 250 µg tabs?