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I'm surprised people are afraid this will decrease quality of life. In New York, cars are the greatest public nuisance. They create exhaust, they shore up traff

by ipnon 8y ago

I'm surprised people are afraid this will decrease quality of life. In New York, cars are the greatest public nuisance. They create exhaust, they shore up traffic, you have to watch out for them when you cross the street. Semis drive through the middle of the city, engine braking and honking. Manhattan can be unbearable at vehicle choke points like Canal Street. Any effort to lessen the amount of cars is going to dramatically improve the quality of life in the city.

ars 8y ago
Because those cars also bring money into the city. With less cars in the city there will be fewer people going there, which means less economic activity. Can New York thrive with less money? I guess we'll see.
- hannasanarion 8y ago
  No they don't. Less than 45% of New Yorkers own a car, and less than 20% commute by car. They are a small minority in the city economy, and there is no reason the rest of us need to subsidize their convenience with free parking and exclusive access to 90% of street width.
  - Spooky23 8y ago
    Give me a break. The fee is going to drive people away from Manhattan. More big brother surveillance, absurd costs and more boondoggle money to the unions. I wonder what the reduced traffic flow will do to MTA Bridges and Tunnels? It’s going to cost like $80 to take the GWB to lower Manhattan and back. More than a few folks will choose to stay in NJ.
    - hannasanarion 8y ago
      Why do you need to drive from the GWB to lower Manhattan? The subways and busses are $3.50 each, it's already cheaper than the tolls, and often faster. I already choose to stay in NJ as often as possible because of how auto traffic in the Lincoln tunnel clogs up space for busses and it sucks to stand on a bus in a tunnel for 50 minutes while all the single-occupant cars squeeze by, and because walking and cycling in midtown is slow and dangerous because the cars get 5 lanes of 5th, 6th, and 8th avenues and we have to squish on 5 feet of sidewalk in places. Man up and stop hiding in your enormous solitary metal box, we don't have cooties.

by ipnon 8y ago

ars 8y ago

Because those cars also bring money into the city. With less cars in the city there will be fewer people going there, which means less economic activity. Can New York thrive with less money? I guess we'll see.

hannasanarion 8y ago
No they don't. Less than 45% of New Yorkers own a car, and less than 20% commute by car. They are a small minority in the city economy, and there is no reason the rest of us need to subsidize their convenience with free parking and exclusive access to 90% of street width.
- Spooky23 8y ago
  Give me a break. The fee is going to drive people away from Manhattan. More big brother surveillance, absurd costs and more boondoggle money to the unions. I wonder what the reduced traffic flow will do to MTA Bridges and Tunnels? It’s going to cost like $80 to take the GWB to lower Manhattan and back. More than a few folks will choose to stay in NJ.
  - hannasanarion 8y ago
    Why do you need to drive from the GWB to lower Manhattan? The subways and busses are $3.50 each, it's already cheaper than the tolls, and often faster. I already choose to stay in NJ as often as possible because of how auto traffic in the Lincoln tunnel clogs up space for busses and it sucks to stand on a bus in a tunnel for 50 minutes while all the single-occupant cars squeeze by, and because walking and cycling in midtown is slow and dangerous because the cars get 5 lanes of 5th, 6th, and 8th avenues and we have to squish on 5 feet of sidewalk in places. Man up and stop hiding in your enormous solitary metal box, we don't have cooties.