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Why do people seem to give SUSE the cold shoulder? I haven't tried it (see?) but I've never really heard anything bad about it. A quick poke suggests the softwa

by dTal 8y ago

Why do people seem to give SUSE the cold shoulder? I haven't tried it (see?) but I've never really heard anything bad about it. A quick poke suggests the software packaging situation for it is excellent as well.

SamReidHughes 8y ago
Every time I've tried to use it, as a desktop, it just wasn't great. Edit: let me clarify. It just didn't work great out of the box. Maybe it was hardware problems, or general weirdness and brokenness, but it felt "off".
- blablabla123 8y ago
  When I started with Linux, the first few years I used SuSE. At that time it was quite normal that a lot of tweaking was needed to get things running. But later on when the landscape modernized, it was noticable that SuSE uses a lot of custom solutions. For instance the /opt directory used to be more in use, likewise a lot of configuration was done via YaST instead of /etc or standard tools that can access /etc. So when bugs appear one needs to wait for SuSE to fix them or work around them. Ubuntu did a much more standard approach, they have (like Debian of course) less customizations in place making users profit from both upstream and 3rd party packages without SuSE focus. Anyways, other distributions don't seem to have a tool like YaST which does all the system configuration and has both proper shell and UI integrations. Also KDE feels more natural on SuSE I guess.
beatgammit 8y ago
IDK. I'm in the process of switching, and so far everything has been pretty smooth. I'm currently weaning myself off Arch, and honestly, OBS has been a sufficient replacement for the AUR, and Tumbleweed is reasonably nice to use. I'm also switching my servers from FreeBSD and Debian to Leap, and again, it's pretty smooth. My only major fear is that BTRFS is going to eat my lunch, but it's also improving as well, so that's becoming less and less of a worry. I'm watching ZFS on Linux as well, but neither SUSE nor RedHat seem interested in jumping on the bandwagon, so I'm holding off. openSUSE seems quite nice, and I agree with most of the decisions that they make. Honestly, I don't know why I didn't use it until now...

by dTal 8y ago

SamReidHughes 8y ago

Every time I've tried to use it, as a desktop, it just wasn't great. Edit: let me clarify. It just didn't work great out of the box. Maybe it was hardware problems, or general weirdness and brokenness, but it felt "off".

blablabla123 8y ago
When I started with Linux, the first few years I used SuSE. At that time it was quite normal that a lot of tweaking was needed to get things running. But later on when the landscape modernized, it was noticable that SuSE uses a lot of custom solutions. For instance the /opt directory used to be more in use, likewise a lot of configuration was done via YaST instead of /etc or standard tools that can access /etc. So when bugs appear one needs to wait for SuSE to fix them or work around them. Ubuntu did a much more standard approach, they have (like Debian of course) less customizations in place making users profit from both upstream and 3rd party packages without SuSE focus. Anyways, other distributions don't seem to have a tool like YaST which does all the system configuration and has both proper shell and UI integrations. Also KDE feels more natural on SuSE I guess.

beatgammit 8y ago

IDK. I'm in the process of switching, and so far everything has been pretty smooth. I'm currently weaning myself off Arch, and honestly, OBS has been a sufficient replacement for the AUR, and Tumbleweed is reasonably nice to use. I'm also switching my servers from FreeBSD and Debian to Leap, and again, it's pretty smooth. My only major fear is that BTRFS is going to eat my lunch, but it's also improving as well, so that's becoming less and less of a worry. I'm watching ZFS on Linux as well, but neither SUSE nor RedHat seem interested in jumping on the bandwagon, so I'm holding off. openSUSE seems quite nice, and I agree with most of the decisions that they make. Honestly, I don't know why I didn't use it until now...