> Those "meetings" you seem to disdain aren't just for people to bitch. Yes they are. If you read through the posts in the actual mailing list, consensus has

> Those "meetings" you seem to disdain aren't just for people to bitch. Yes they are. If you read through the posts in the actual mailing list, consensus has been built--the consensus is "move to github". See several developers' comments here: http://groups.google.com/group/hudson-users/msg/5c6ec5888594f03f http://groups.google.com/group/hudson-users/msg/5c6ec5888594... http://groups.google.com/group/hudson-users/msg/02a9ca4abd7db83e http://groups.google.com/group/hudson-users/msg/02a9ca4abd7d... http://groups.google.com/group/hudson-users/msg/9d4c44b83a1a08b4 http://groups.google.com/group/hudson-users/msg/9d4c44b83a1a... This entire thread: http://groups.google.com/group/hudson-users/browse_thread/thread/c935a4740af0b920/d14b5bddfa2beead?lnk=gst&q=hudson+github#d14b5bddfa2beead http://groups.google.com/group/hudson-users/browse_thread/th... http://groups.google.com/group/hudson-dev/browse_thread/thread/c935a4740af0b920 http://groups.google.com/group/hudson-dev/browse_thread/thre... The only reason it hasn't happened already is because Oracle wants to bitch. I'm calling the developers drama queens too because instead of forking after consensus was built, which was the logical thing to do, they are still talking to Oracle and/or blogging about what Oracle will or will not let them do.