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you hold voters/politicians responsible. Voters are the ones who keep voting for politicians that subsidize the oil industry. We need to stop the subsidies.

you hold voters/politicians responsible. Voters are the ones who keep voting for politicians that subsidize the oil industry. We need to stop the subsidies. And then add in some steep extra taxes on oil/gas to offset the damage to the environment. Once prices rise, all the sudden people and companies will start making the right decisions.

rcMgD2BwE72F 8y ago
Certainly not. Rich people can afford to pay very high prices so they don't have to change their life one bit. Only the poor will suffer if you want things to change meaningfully, nbut they aren't stupid so you'll end up with yellow vests everywhere, and government will become even more authoritarian (if not dictatorial) to "restore order and stop the eco-bullshit". Edit: I live a few blocks away from where yellow vests have been demonstrating for 20+ Saturday in a row. I had cars burning in my street several times now, so I'm just describing what's already taking place. Macron's government is getting more aggressive day by day, enough for the UN commission for human rights to send several warnings. Macron has made clear he won't change its policies one bit -- e.g out of the question to put back the tax on ultra riches (aka ISF) but poor people will have to pay more to drive to work... aaaaand we've now got the most violent protestations in France since the Algerian War!. The two former presidents (N Sarkozy and F Hollande) just said they expect the far-right to come to power very soon. TLDR: Don't expect people to pay taxes on essential goods if the riches don't have to change their consumption too. Either we, collectively, change or we don't. The message is quite clear.
- ishjoh 8y ago
  I've been trying to follow the yellow vest protests but media attention has died down here is in the US. How many people are protesting at this point? Are the protests getting worse in damage and severity? Is the French government actually solving problems or just cracking down harder?
- pascalxus 8y ago
  does the 0.1% really make that much of a difference in the environment? even if they were driving a 12mpg aventador all over the place, that's still only 5 times more pollution than a prius. and most likely they'll be driving less than a working person anyways.

rcMgD2BwE72F 8y ago

Certainly not. Rich people can afford to pay very high prices so they don't have to change their life one bit. Only the poor will suffer if you want things to change meaningfully, nbut they aren't stupid so you'll end up with yellow vests everywhere, and government will become even more authoritarian (if not dictatorial) to "restore order and stop the eco-bullshit". Edit: I live a few blocks away from where yellow vests have been demonstrating for 20+ Saturday in a row. I had cars burning in my street several times now, so I'm just describing what's already taking place. Macron's government is getting more aggressive day by day, enough for the UN commission for human rights to send several warnings. Macron has made clear he won't change its policies one bit -- e.g out of the question to put back the tax on ultra riches (aka ISF) but poor people will have to pay more to drive to work... aaaaand we've now got the most violent protestations in France since the Algerian War!. The two former presidents (N Sarkozy and F Hollande) just said they expect the far-right to come to power very soon. TLDR: Don't expect people to pay taxes on essential goods if the riches don't have to change their consumption too. Either we, collectively, change or we don't. The message is quite clear.

ishjoh 8y ago
I've been trying to follow the yellow vest protests but media attention has died down here is in the US. How many people are protesting at this point? Are the protests getting worse in damage and severity? Is the French government actually solving problems or just cracking down harder?
pascalxus 8y ago
does the 0.1% really make that much of a difference in the environment? even if they were driving a 12mpg aventador all over the place, that's still only 5 times more pollution than a prius. and most likely they'll be driving less than a working person anyways.