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go through the tutorial for both django and RoR and see how you feel about each one.

notdarkyet 18y ago
I have done that and for some reason the structure of Django seemed more logical and appealing for me, but I had hoped that there were bigger reasons/features/libs to push me into one direction rather than simply preference. I will be using a hosting service so the ease of use in implementation is also a big issue, not just the framework itself.
- apgwoz 18y ago
  I think you'll get more options for hosting with "claimed" support for Rails. Hell, you could even use http://heroku.com/ http://heroku.com/ Personally, I chose django, but only because I was a python programmer before ror and django took off. If I were to do it again, I might look seriously at Pylons, as I consistently read good things about it.
  - kashif 18y ago
    Well both Python and Ruby can be easily hosted without ANY need for specialized hosting. Heroku isnt just a host. Neither is GooglesAppEngine or AWS.
    - frankus 18y ago
      True, but this wasn't really the case before mod_rails (Passenger) made it relatively painless to host rails apps on a shared server. I deployed a smallish rails app on Dreamhost in about 5 minutes last night. My previous attempt to deploy on a stock SuSE/apache2 server took a few days of fairly dedicated prodding.
notdarkyet 18y ago
EDIT #2 DOWN BELOW: sorry for responding to the first comment but I ran out of edits for the submission and I wanted readers to know I made a comment for Edit #2 down below
mrtron 18y ago
This is exactly what I did, and I strongly recommend it. I learned more from launching a demo application in both (I used a blog and a poll as an example) than I could have by asking other people. I found what suited my tastes.
brooksbp 18y ago
This is great from a beginner's stand-point, but might seem to realize that all web frameworks are basically code generators with a bunch of glue. Which, for 90% of the useless crap out there on the internet, is fine.

I have done that and for some reason the structure of Django seemed more logical and appealing for me, but I had hoped that there were bigger reasons/features/libs to push me into one direction rather than simply preference. I will be using a hosting service so the ease of use in implementation is also a big issue, not just the framework itself.

apgwoz 18y ago
I think you'll get more options for hosting with "claimed" support for Rails. Hell, you could even use http://heroku.com/ http://heroku.com/ Personally, I chose django, but only because I was a python programmer before ror and django took off. If I were to do it again, I might look seriously at Pylons, as I consistently read good things about it.
- kashif 18y ago
  Well both Python and Ruby can be easily hosted without ANY need for specialized hosting. Heroku isnt just a host. Neither is GooglesAppEngine or AWS.
  - frankus 18y ago
    True, but this wasn't really the case before mod_rails (Passenger) made it relatively painless to host rails apps on a shared server. I deployed a smallish rails app on Dreamhost in about 5 minutes last night. My previous attempt to deploy on a stock SuSE/apache2 server took a few days of fairly dedicated prodding.

notdarkyet 18y ago

EDIT #2 DOWN BELOW: sorry for responding to the first comment but I ran out of edits for the submission and I wanted readers to know I made a comment for Edit #2 down below

mrtron 18y ago

This is exactly what I did, and I strongly recommend it. I learned more from launching a demo application in both (I used a blog and a poll as an example) than I could have by asking other people. I found what suited my tastes.

brooksbp 18y ago

This is great from a beginner's stand-point, but might seem to realize that all web frameworks are basically code generators with a bunch of glue. Which, for 90% of the useless crap out there on the internet, is fine.