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It is basically the vegetarian version of an unhealthy burger. If you wouldn’t normally eat a whopper for health reasons, then you have no reason to start eati

It is basically the vegetarian version of an unhealthy burger. If you wouldn’t normally eat a whopper for health reasons, then you have no reason to start eating this.

rhn_mk1 8y ago
Can you provide details on that?
- BoorishBears 8y ago
  I made a comment above: Mayonnaise and cheese alone probably add almost as many calories as a hamburger patty some of their burgers Removing the patty might even make it less healthy if it doesn't satiate you as much as it would otherwise
  - dmix 8y ago
    I'd be more concerned about the carbs from the bun's bread, which was probably sweetened with corn syrup, than the calories in the cheese.
    - BoorishBears 8y ago
      Well that's kind of my point... a burger isn't a healthy thing, the burger patty is probably the most healthy part of it outside of plain vegetable toppings
tyingq 8y ago
No cholesterol is a pretty big difference, even if they have similar fat content.
- JamesBarney 8y ago
  The most recent research basically says that dietary intake of cholesterol have very little influence on cholesterol blood levels.
  - gnicholas 8y ago
    There was a very recent analysis on egg consumption that tends to indicate that there is indeed a connection. https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/2019/03/18/eggs-and-cholesterol-back-in-the-spotlight-in-new-jama-study/ https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/2019/03/18/eggs...
  - reddit_clone 8y ago
    Not only that, when you don't take enough cholesterol through food, body makes its own!
- jriot 8y ago
  I drink 32oz of whole milk a day, bacon with grits and butter for breakfast, steak at lunch, then my dinner varies. I have normal levels of cholesterol. I believe genetics play a bigger impact.
rconti 8y ago
Burgers aren't really that unhealthy. Skip the fried onions and fried jalapenos and aioli and mayo and it's no big deal. I just had a 1/3lb bison burger last night in a pita, with all kinds of good stuff (feta, sweet hot mustard, ketchup, jalapenos) and it's something like 550 calories. It's quite easy to have a healthy-ish meat burger. Skip the fries and soda. I make black bean burgers sometimes, and they actually have more calories and less protein than beef or bison.
- lapinot 8y ago
  Yeah right, i'm sure BK is really putting a lot of money into small family businesses with diversified farming light on the ecosystems using no herbicides/insecticides, and not mega food-industry with fields that have thousand of hectares of a single crop and get farmed using a whole fleet of huge diesel machines, get a load of pharma chemicals dropped on their head preventively to make sure no other life form gets to survive in that field. I'm picking on you now but it fcking freaks me out how this whole page seems to feel concerned about "healthy food", "veganism", "ecology". This is a fast-food mega-corp, they are part of one of the ugliest side of the already disgusting industrial food chain. They are right on incompatible with any kind of healthiness you could imagine (of human beings, of crops, polinators, overall countryside ecosystems, farmers). Hey, fast-food/sweet-drink business uses the same marketing strategies than tobacco groups. Or pharma. These are the people that created all the massive public health issues we've got since say '50s. Cancer, diabetes, obesity, one-off epidemics (h5n1, h1n1, mad cow...). And i didn't even start talking about work conditions or economic aspects of these bastards (the corps, not targeting any individuals here).
nickik 8y ago
Actually a real burger is often healthier then a carb loaded veggi burger. We should finally move beyond the 'red meat' bad analysis that has unfortunately dominated scientific discourse for a long time. A burger is fat and protein and there is very little reason not to eat if for health reasons for normal people.
- gowld 8y ago
  "grease" is the lowest-quality subcategory of "fat".

It is basically the vegetarian version of an unhealthy burger. If you wouldn’t normally eat a whopper for health reasons, then you have no reason to start eating this.

rhn_mk1 8y ago

Can you provide details on that?

BoorishBears 8y ago
I made a comment above: Mayonnaise and cheese alone probably add almost as many calories as a hamburger patty some of their burgers Removing the patty might even make it less healthy if it doesn't satiate you as much as it would otherwise
- dmix 8y ago
  I'd be more concerned about the carbs from the bun's bread, which was probably sweetened with corn syrup, than the calories in the cheese.
  - BoorishBears 8y ago
    Well that's kind of my point... a burger isn't a healthy thing, the burger patty is probably the most healthy part of it outside of plain vegetable toppings

tyingq 8y ago

No cholesterol is a pretty big difference, even if they have similar fat content.

JamesBarney 8y ago
The most recent research basically says that dietary intake of cholesterol have very little influence on cholesterol blood levels.
- gnicholas 8y ago
  There was a very recent analysis on egg consumption that tends to indicate that there is indeed a connection. https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/2019/03/18/eggs-and-cholesterol-back-in-the-spotlight-in-new-jama-study/ https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/2019/03/18/eggs...
- reddit_clone 8y ago
  Not only that, when you don't take enough cholesterol through food, body makes its own!
jriot 8y ago
I drink 32oz of whole milk a day, bacon with grits and butter for breakfast, steak at lunch, then my dinner varies. I have normal levels of cholesterol. I believe genetics play a bigger impact.

rconti 8y ago

Burgers aren't really that unhealthy. Skip the fried onions and fried jalapenos and aioli and mayo and it's no big deal. I just had a 1/3lb bison burger last night in a pita, with all kinds of good stuff (feta, sweet hot mustard, ketchup, jalapenos) and it's something like 550 calories. It's quite easy to have a healthy-ish meat burger. Skip the fries and soda. I make black bean burgers sometimes, and they actually have more calories and less protein than beef or bison.

lapinot 8y ago
Yeah right, i'm sure BK is really putting a lot of money into small family businesses with diversified farming light on the ecosystems using no herbicides/insecticides, and not mega food-industry with fields that have thousand of hectares of a single crop and get farmed using a whole fleet of huge diesel machines, get a load of pharma chemicals dropped on their head preventively to make sure no other life form gets to survive in that field. I'm picking on you now but it fcking freaks me out how this whole page seems to feel concerned about "healthy food", "veganism", "ecology". This is a fast-food mega-corp, they are part of one of the ugliest side of the already disgusting industrial food chain. They are right on incompatible with any kind of healthiness you could imagine (of human beings, of crops, polinators, overall countryside ecosystems, farmers). Hey, fast-food/sweet-drink business uses the same marketing strategies than tobacco groups. Or pharma. These are the people that created all the massive public health issues we've got since say '50s. Cancer, diabetes, obesity, one-off epidemics (h5n1, h1n1, mad cow...). And i didn't even start talking about work conditions or economic aspects of these bastards (the corps, not targeting any individuals here).

nickik 8y ago

Actually a real burger is often healthier then a carb loaded veggi burger. We should finally move beyond the 'red meat' bad analysis that has unfortunately dominated scientific discourse for a long time. A burger is fat and protein and there is very little reason not to eat if for health reasons for normal people.

gowld 8y ago
"grease" is the lowest-quality subcategory of "fat".