Exactly. Some of the best designers I've ever met were absolutely terrible at interpersonal communication and were completely dependent on the project manager t

Exactly. Some of the best designers I've ever met were absolutely terrible at interpersonal communication and were completely dependent on the project manager to talk to the client and figure out the communication problem. There's a lot of iteration and specialization going on, and a lot of times I did a complete UX overhaul of what the graphic designer made while keeping his visual styling entirely, working almost exclusively with the art director and PM. Slightly off topic; As a designer, I find it fairly interesting to see things from the other point of view on this board. It's this kind of boy/girl mutual insecurity where everybody thinks the other side is completely cool and self-assured, and I'm hiding here thinking "you guys want us too?". Believe me, for every startup that needs a designer, there's about six designers who need somebody technical to develop the designs.