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Plenty of smokers smoked and lived long healthy lives. It's the same point you're making. There is a massive amount of evidence the the healthy fats are animal

by dalore 8y ago

Plenty of smokers smoked and lived long healthy lives. It's the same point you're making. There is a massive amount of evidence the the healthy fats are animals fats, coconut oil, avocado oils etc and not the "vegetables" oils which aren't really vegetables.

IWeldMelons 8y ago
If you are nitpicking the word "vegetable", you are free to replace it with "plant".
- dalore 8y ago
  Point is that they picked the word vegetable to make it sound healthy and palatable. Before that these plant oils weren't used for consumption at all. The term vegetable is merely a marketing ploy. It's not me being nitpicking, it's a nefarious act.
  - IWeldMelons 8y ago
    Who are "they"? According yo Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetable_oil https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetable_oil) vegetable oil and plant oil are synonyms.
    - dalore 8y ago
      They being the people who first started creating and marketing these seed oils for consumption. What the oils really are, are hydrogenated seed oils. Note that article mentions both naturally pressed plant oils, and the hydrogenated oils, but then a point that mentions what oils are only allowed to be called vegetable oils: In the US, the Standard of Identity for a product labeled as "vegetable oil margarine" specifies only canola, safflower, sunflower, corn, soybean, or peanut oil may be used.[8] Products not labeled "vegetable oil margarine" do not have that restriction. Again note none of them are vegetables, they are all seeds, and go through a hydrogenatation process which makes them brittle. Again all mentioned in the article you linked to me. Also interesting is that right at the end of the article is how some countries insist that labelling them vegetable oils isn't enough and that the true ingredient must be listed. Also notice they do rename things for marketing, like canola instead of rapeseed (as they though rape wouldn't sell). I guess "hydrogenated seed oils" doesn't sell as well and so they called them "vegetable oils".

by dalore 8y ago

IWeldMelons 8y ago

If you are nitpicking the word "vegetable", you are free to replace it with "plant".

dalore 8y ago
Point is that they picked the word vegetable to make it sound healthy and palatable. Before that these plant oils weren't used for consumption at all. The term vegetable is merely a marketing ploy. It's not me being nitpicking, it's a nefarious act.
- IWeldMelons 8y ago
  Who are "they"? According yo Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetable_oil https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetable_oil) vegetable oil and plant oil are synonyms.
  - dalore 8y ago
    They being the people who first started creating and marketing these seed oils for consumption. What the oils really are, are hydrogenated seed oils. Note that article mentions both naturally pressed plant oils, and the hydrogenated oils, but then a point that mentions what oils are only allowed to be called vegetable oils: In the US, the Standard of Identity for a product labeled as "vegetable oil margarine" specifies only canola, safflower, sunflower, corn, soybean, or peanut oil may be used.[8] Products not labeled "vegetable oil margarine" do not have that restriction. Again note none of them are vegetables, they are all seeds, and go through a hydrogenatation process which makes them brittle. Again all mentioned in the article you linked to me. Also interesting is that right at the end of the article is how some countries insist that labelling them vegetable oils isn't enough and that the true ingredient must be listed. Also notice they do rename things for marketing, like canola instead of rapeseed (as they though rape wouldn't sell). I guess "hydrogenated seed oils" doesn't sell as well and so they called them "vegetable oils".