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There's a lot of dissing of competition (they drain your battery, "all suck", slow down your internet) without a single datapoint. Personally I find the perfor
by ikeboy 8y ago
There's a lot of dissing of competition (they drain your battery, "all suck", slow down your internet) without a single datapoint.
Personally I find the performance of PIA fine. I just ran a test through fast.com and got 42 mbps on 4g through PIA mobile VPN in NYC. (Weirdly, when I turn off the VPN and test I'm only getting around 2 Mbps.) Latency is a bit higher than direct, but not enough for me to agree with their blanket statement that all VPNs suck.
- zamadatix 8y agoAnything that uses the Android built in IPsec VPN is going to be fine unless the app really goes out of it's way to be crappy. This uses Wireguard in userspace so is likely actually a battery drain. Less than OpenVPN at least.
- apexalpha 8y agoWhile it might use more power I've been using Wireguard on my phone for 6 months or so now and the performance is way better than IPSec, especially on spotty connections such a mobile!
- mmore 8y agoI wonder how the increase in performance might offset the difference in battery drain between both protocols. If wireguard uses a bit more battery to achieve a task quicker the extra idle time achieved might off-set any increase in power usage.
- fulafel 8y agoThis sounds curious, both protocols just encapsulate your ip packets without affecting retransmissions, no?
- JustSomeNobody 8y agoFast.com is through Netflix, so your carrier is probably throttling. Try a different speed test with no VPN to confirm.
- ikeboy 8y agoUsing the speed test app I get 65 direct and 58 using the NYC setting in PIA. Ping is 31 ms for PIA vs 28 direct. I look forward to testing with Warp once it's released, but I don't see how it could be much better than the status quo. PIA has lots of servers all over the place, cloudflare might have a bigger network but the delta should be negligible. I am a bit surprised that fast would get throttled though.
- tracker1 8y agoIt's been pretty common and a big part of why Netflix created the service iirc. ISPs have been throttling netflix as a negotiating tactic when creating peering agreements for upstream traffic or deploying more content servers. The whole process has been really horrible imho. Some mobile providers do it to force lower quality streams, that in fairness are probably more appropriate for small/mobile devices. 1080p-4K are probably overkill on a 5-6" device.
- ikeboy 8y agoFlagships from Apple, Samsung and Google are 1080p resolution or better. 4k is overkill but 1080p absolutely is not.
- tracker1 8y agoThe question is, on a 5" screen will you really notice the difference between a 1080p stream and a 720p stream for video? Especially considering the 720p may be higher bits per pixel than the 1080p stream. I'd rather have a 720p stream at 3/4 the bitrate of a 1080p stream, which is often the case as there are multiple levels for a given resolution. Then again, I don't always notice even on a larger screen from a better 720p stream and a poorer (relatively) 1080p stream. I often notice the difference from 1080p to 4K though, which is a slightly bigger bump on a much larger screen.
- jedberg 8y agoNetflix will never even try to show you 4K on a mobile device. The ISPs know this. They just want to throttle Netflix so that you'll prefer the ISPs streaming service to Netflix.
- topranks 8y agoCPU on your phone is probably gonna be the main reason VPN is slower than not using one. But this only sends DNS over the VPN so it won’t use much power at all. 99% of your traffic does not route via the VPN with this app.
- crummy 8y agoWhere do you get the idea this is DNS over VPN only? > Any unencrypted connections are encrypted automatically and by default. > Unfortunately, a lot of the Internet is still unencrypted. For that, Warp automatically adds encryption from your device to the edge of Cloudflare’s network It reads to me like all your traffic goes through your service, not just DNS.
- topranks 8y agoYep... my apologies.. The blog led me to their "1.1.1.1 app", which I installed and found created a VPN on my iOS device that only tunneled DNS traffic. This "warp" thing, which is not released you can only go on a waiting list for, will apparently tunnel all traffic. My apologies for the error.