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Could you expand on what you see as the bloat? I find the base distribution of CakePHP to be very lean, and using it on half dozen production projects, I have f

Could you expand on what you see as the bloat? I find the base distribution of CakePHP to be very lean, and using it on half dozen production projects, I have found no issues with speed, especially with proper use of memcached and media compression.

noodle 16y ago
http://avnetlabs.com/php/php-framework-comparison-benchmarks http://avnetlabs.com/php/php-framework-comparison-benchmarks
- mattcurry 16y ago
  These benchmarks are from two years ago. The version of Cake used isn't even a stable release (1.2 RC1). Either way 1.3 has replaced 1.2 and is plenty fast for 99.99999% of sites.
  - noodle 16y ago
    fair enough, it was the newest one i could find. this and similar reports from others are the reason i don't use cake, though, and it seems like it would be in their best interest to get some newer information out there. (i made my choices years ago though)
  - karanbhangui 16y ago
    Here's a more recent benchmark: http://symfony-reloaded.org/fast http://symfony-reloaded.org/fast
    - jaredstenquist 16y ago
      Odd that they didn't include codeigniter in the test
      - tgriesser 16y ago
        Probably because if they had, wouldn't have been the fastest in all tests, or at least not by much.
  - robryan 16y ago
    No to mention that these kind of things are going to be hard to really measure. Each framework is doing such diverse things that each website will get different performance. Also I wouldn't trust a framework maker to do these tests.
  - powertower 16y ago
    Another benchmark source... http://www.yiiframework.com/performance/ http://www.yiiframework.com/performance/ Take with a grain of salt.
    - josephmoniz 16y ago
      This benchmark seems to be either out dated or somewhat falsified. I ran the same benchmark on my system and CI out performed Yii ( https://github.com/JosephMoniz/BlueElephant/blob/master/docs/benchmark.md https://github.com/JosephMoniz/BlueElephant/blob/master/docs... ) . The main point though is that with or without caching (APC) CakePHP is the slowest by an order of magnitude. EDIT: yeah, pretty sure the original Yii benchmark is dated as the graph has older versions while the phpmark repo has slighlty newer ones ( http://code.google.com/p/phpmark/source/browse/#svn/trunk http://code.google.com/p/phpmark/source/browse/#svn/trunk )
    - mario2027 16y ago
      http://www.phpkode.com http://www.phpkode.com another PHP Framework source

noodle 16y ago

http://avnetlabs.com/php/php-framework-comparison-benchmarks http://avnetlabs.com/php/php-framework-comparison-benchmarks

mattcurry 16y ago
These benchmarks are from two years ago. The version of Cake used isn't even a stable release (1.2 RC1). Either way 1.3 has replaced 1.2 and is plenty fast for 99.99999% of sites.
- noodle 16y ago
  fair enough, it was the newest one i could find. this and similar reports from others are the reason i don't use cake, though, and it seems like it would be in their best interest to get some newer information out there. (i made my choices years ago though)
- karanbhangui 16y ago
  Here's a more recent benchmark: http://symfony-reloaded.org/fast http://symfony-reloaded.org/fast
  - jaredstenquist 16y ago
    Odd that they didn't include codeigniter in the test
    - tgriesser 16y ago
      Probably because if they had, wouldn't have been the fastest in all tests, or at least not by much.
- robryan 16y ago
  No to mention that these kind of things are going to be hard to really measure. Each framework is doing such diverse things that each website will get different performance. Also I wouldn't trust a framework maker to do these tests.
- powertower 16y ago
  Another benchmark source... http://www.yiiframework.com/performance/ http://www.yiiframework.com/performance/ Take with a grain of salt.
  - josephmoniz 16y ago
    This benchmark seems to be either out dated or somewhat falsified. I ran the same benchmark on my system and CI out performed Yii ( https://github.com/JosephMoniz/BlueElephant/blob/master/docs/benchmark.md https://github.com/JosephMoniz/BlueElephant/blob/master/docs... ) . The main point though is that with or without caching (APC) CakePHP is the slowest by an order of magnitude. EDIT: yeah, pretty sure the original Yii benchmark is dated as the graph has older versions while the phpmark repo has slighlty newer ones ( http://code.google.com/p/phpmark/source/browse/#svn/trunk http://code.google.com/p/phpmark/source/browse/#svn/trunk )
  - mario2027 16y ago
    http://www.phpkode.com http://www.phpkode.com another PHP Framework source