As a bystander to this discussion, though, I should add that I held the same convictions as GP, feeling that it was somehow obvious that you were wrong. When I

As a bystander to this discussion, though, I should add that I held the same convictions as GP, feeling that it was somehow obvious that you were wrong. When I applied some serious scrutiny to this thought, though, it became a lot less obvious. I say "I" applied scrutiny, but it was basically this book, which I would therefore recommend to anyone reading along: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/29380.Animal_Liberation https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/29380.Animal_Liberation It might not convince you completely of this point, but it will force you to seriously consider your arguments, and is therefore in my opinion a great intellectual exercise.