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"makes it harder to kill" Unfortunately, this is still thinking in terms of the "cure" mindset as opposed to co-existing with cancer. Maybe you just can't kill

"makes it harder to kill" Unfortunately, this is still thinking in terms of the "cure" mindset as opposed to co-existing with cancer. Maybe you just can't kill cancer. Try not to think about "let it grow" vs "managing the growth". If aggressive treatment leads to hardier cells forming, which can then break off and lead to metastasis. There are other chronic conditions which we can live with such as diabetes and HIV that were previously thought of as early death sentences, it is not inconceivable we can get there with cancer.

Gatsky 8y ago
Cancer gets cured all the time. Note that curative treatments are aimed at reducing the number of cancer cells to zero or near zero eg with surgery or chemotherapy. These evolutionary strategies are a cute idea that might buy some more time in relatively indolent cancers with therapies that already work well. It’s a niche indication at best.
cannonedhamster 8y ago
So we might get there, but realistically the methodology is really flawed. Cancer is, for all cancers, a failure of our own immune system to recognize cells that have gained a genetic defect that doesn't cause proper cell apoptosis. This isn't a foreign invader, this is our own cells with a flaw. While it's cute to think about just living with it, if you're not completely preventing the growth in some cancers you're not really doing much. We can cure most cancers nowadays through surgery, radiation, and chemo...if we catch them early enough and they don't spread. If you're talking about coexisting with cancer, you're already past the point of worrying about it spreading. It's already metastasized. Coexistence only makes sense if it's something you could live with. If you want to see how well this works out ask Steve Jobs how co-existing with his cancer worked out, because this essentially amounts to letting the cancer spread further and more aggressively which will damage even more organs. The hardier cells will already exist, your body will just have to fight off more cancer cells. The only, and I mean only, way to live long term with cancer is to allow the immune system to fight off the cancer and keep it at bay by removing the inhibitors that prevent recognition and reaction. I hope the day that cancer becomes chronic is today, but realistically I'm probably not going to live to see the day that it does. This article is just another drop in the bucket of false cures and pseudo-scientific nonsense that exist for cancer that aims to provide hope and to take advantage of already desperate people, who often don't have the financial means to cover the costs of chemo, infusion pumps, CT Scans, PET Scans, ports, rides, medications, etc.

Gatsky 8y ago

Cancer gets cured all the time. Note that curative treatments are aimed at reducing the number of cancer cells to zero or near zero eg with surgery or chemotherapy. These evolutionary strategies are a cute idea that might buy some more time in relatively indolent cancers with therapies that already work well. It’s a niche indication at best.

cannonedhamster 8y ago

So we might get there, but realistically the methodology is really flawed. Cancer is, for all cancers, a failure of our own immune system to recognize cells that have gained a genetic defect that doesn't cause proper cell apoptosis. This isn't a foreign invader, this is our own cells with a flaw. While it's cute to think about just living with it, if you're not completely preventing the growth in some cancers you're not really doing much. We can cure most cancers nowadays through surgery, radiation, and chemo...if we catch them early enough and they don't spread. If you're talking about coexisting with cancer, you're already past the point of worrying about it spreading. It's already metastasized. Coexistence only makes sense if it's something you could live with. If you want to see how well this works out ask Steve Jobs how co-existing with his cancer worked out, because this essentially amounts to letting the cancer spread further and more aggressively which will damage even more organs. The hardier cells will already exist, your body will just have to fight off more cancer cells. The only, and I mean only, way to live long term with cancer is to allow the immune system to fight off the cancer and keep it at bay by removing the inhibitors that prevent recognition and reaction. I hope the day that cancer becomes chronic is today, but realistically I'm probably not going to live to see the day that it does. This article is just another drop in the bucket of false cures and pseudo-scientific nonsense that exist for cancer that aims to provide hope and to take advantage of already desperate people, who often don't have the financial means to cover the costs of chemo, infusion pumps, CT Scans, PET Scans, ports, rides, medications, etc.