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> I also feel like my problems are legitimate Listen, refusing to carry a book bag when you know you are a compulsive shopper is not a legitimate problem.

balfirevic 8y ago
Yeah, just carry a freaking book bag or backpack everywhere with you that you don't actually need because you might go to the store. WTF is happening here :-D Also, compulsive shopper was probably not what you wanted to say.
- dingaling 8y ago
  I've noticed that as a difference between Car People and Non-car People. The latter tend to have a backpack or other general-purpose bag with them at all times containing wallet, keys, bottle of water, waterproof jacket, reusable grocery sack etc. After a while it feels naked to go out without it. Whereas Car People leave that stuff in the car or shove it into bulging pockets.
- bluntfang 8y ago
  It's called being a human with needs and solving those needs. yes carry a back pack wherever you go. Am empty back pack is light and you won't even notice it. I guarantee there are things that you use everyday that you can put in there. Like a user below me suggested, a water bottle is a great first thing to carry with you everywhere. It's not that you might go to the store either. OP explicitly said they do not know when they are going to shop. It is random, therefore either change your behavior to be more predictable or prepare yourself for your known unknown. Excuses like these are childish unless you have accessibility issues.
reitzensteinm 8y ago
You're being awfully high and mighty jumping around this thread to criticize what is, on the scale of typical human consumption, really quite minor. Do you own a car? Have you flown in the last year? Do you eat out or get food delivered to you? How often do you get a new laptop? Do you use air conditioning? Apparently it's socially acceptable to look down on someone for using plastic bags, but it would be uncouth to suggest that someone use public transport or vacation domestically. The latter examples would be an actual sacrifice, and we only want to make token gestures to feel good about ourselves and move on with our lives.
- Rudneudnru 8y ago
  >Do you own a car? Have you flown in the last year? Do you eat out or get food delivered to you? How often do you get a new laptop? Do you use air conditioning? No, no, yes, not in more than ten years, no. Not really that hard.
  - reitzensteinm 8y ago
    You do realize saying yes to a single one is enough to absolutely dwarf plastic bag use, right?
- bluntfang 8y ago
  >You're being awfully high and mighty jumping around this thread to criticize what is, on the scale of typical human consumption, really quite minor. It may be minor, but if OP is complaining about things as simple as "I don't know when I go to the store, so I MUST use plastic bags", then imagine what else they are unwilling to budge on. Not to mention, broken windows theory is real, remove plastic waste from the streets like plastic bags and people will modify their behavior. >Apparently it's socially acceptable to look down on someone for using plastic bags I am not looking down on someone for using plastic bags, I am looking down on them for making really bad excuses for continuing to use plastic bags. It's literally a lack of effort.
  - reitzensteinm 8y ago
    That's an unfounded assumption. They might simply be frustrated at politicians rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. I don't oppose banning plastic bags in a vacuum, but I think spending political capital to do so is insane. The vast majority of the waste comes from the products and packaging that go in to the bag, not the bag itself. So now the activity of shopping has essentially been greenwashed. I wouldn't be surprised if total consumption actually increased as a result, because it reduces the guilt one feels. You didn't reply to my list.
    - bluntfang 8y ago

balfirevic 8y ago

Yeah, just carry a freaking book bag or backpack everywhere with you that you don't actually need because you might go to the store. WTF is happening here :-D Also, compulsive shopper was probably not what you wanted to say.

dingaling 8y ago
I've noticed that as a difference between Car People and Non-car People. The latter tend to have a backpack or other general-purpose bag with them at all times containing wallet, keys, bottle of water, waterproof jacket, reusable grocery sack etc. After a while it feels naked to go out without it. Whereas Car People leave that stuff in the car or shove it into bulging pockets.
bluntfang 8y ago
It's called being a human with needs and solving those needs. yes carry a back pack wherever you go. Am empty back pack is light and you won't even notice it. I guarantee there are things that you use everyday that you can put in there. Like a user below me suggested, a water bottle is a great first thing to carry with you everywhere. It's not that you might go to the store either. OP explicitly said they do not know when they are going to shop. It is random, therefore either change your behavior to be more predictable or prepare yourself for your known unknown. Excuses like these are childish unless you have accessibility issues.

reitzensteinm 8y ago

You're being awfully high and mighty jumping around this thread to criticize what is, on the scale of typical human consumption, really quite minor. Do you own a car? Have you flown in the last year? Do you eat out or get food delivered to you? How often do you get a new laptop? Do you use air conditioning? Apparently it's socially acceptable to look down on someone for using plastic bags, but it would be uncouth to suggest that someone use public transport or vacation domestically. The latter examples would be an actual sacrifice, and we only want to make token gestures to feel good about ourselves and move on with our lives.

Rudneudnru 8y ago
>Do you own a car? Have you flown in the last year? Do you eat out or get food delivered to you? How often do you get a new laptop? Do you use air conditioning? No, no, yes, not in more than ten years, no. Not really that hard.
- reitzensteinm 8y ago
  You do realize saying yes to a single one is enough to absolutely dwarf plastic bag use, right?
bluntfang 8y ago
>You're being awfully high and mighty jumping around this thread to criticize what is, on the scale of typical human consumption, really quite minor. It may be minor, but if OP is complaining about things as simple as "I don't know when I go to the store, so I MUST use plastic bags", then imagine what else they are unwilling to budge on. Not to mention, broken windows theory is real, remove plastic waste from the streets like plastic bags and people will modify their behavior. >Apparently it's socially acceptable to look down on someone for using plastic bags I am not looking down on someone for using plastic bags, I am looking down on them for making really bad excuses for continuing to use plastic bags. It's literally a lack of effort.
- reitzensteinm 8y ago
  That's an unfounded assumption. They might simply be frustrated at politicians rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. I don't oppose banning plastic bags in a vacuum, but I think spending political capital to do so is insane. The vast majority of the waste comes from the products and packaging that go in to the bag, not the bag itself. So now the activity of shopping has essentially been greenwashed. I wouldn't be surprised if total consumption actually increased as a result, because it reduces the guilt one feels. You didn't reply to my list.
  - bluntfang 8y ago