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Do you accept a lower salary if you opt to work four days a week?

by willnz 8y ago

zbentley 8y ago
I would hope not. This article suggests that this is not the case (sorry about the adblocker modal): https://www.dutchnews.nl/features/2016/06/professor-aims-to-explore-the-real-role-of-dutch-dads/ https://www.dutchnews.nl/features/2016/06/professor-aims-to-...
- balfirevic 8y ago
  If that's the case, why do only 28% of working men opt-in for that benefit? Also, it's pretty wild that you are effectively entitled by law to a 25% increase in salary if you have a child under 9.
  - cr1895 8y ago
    >Also, it's pretty wild that you are effectively entitled by law to a 25% increase in salary if you have a child under 9. That's incorrect. It's at a reduced salary. If you're on a permanent contract and if your full-time function isn't in some way demonstrably critical to the business, you're also entitled to work fewer hours if you want, unrelated to children.
    - balfirevic 8y ago
      > That's incorrect. It's at a reduced salary. So I presumed, which is why I responded with disbelief to a commenter that sad (in response to a question whether salary is reduced): > I would hope not. This article suggests that this is not the case
- Confusion 8y ago
  No, there’s some confusion here. There are two distinct benefits you are entitled to when you become a father. One is that you get exactly 1 week of paid leave. The other is the right to take 26 weeks of unpaid ‘parental leave’ during the first 9 years, which is often used to e.g. start working 4 days a week (the leave is used at a rate of 1 day per week then; you could also use it for taking half a year off at once).
  - Tempest1981 8y ago
    So "only" 2.5 years of 4-day weeks, with reduced pay.
    - mcv 8y ago
      My wife's job pays 75% percent for parental leave days, but that's not a requirement. Personally, I only apply for jobs that let me work 4 day weeks permanently; I hate having to count how many days I've got left for whatever. (It's the main advantage of being a freelancer to me: no limit on how many vacation days I take.)
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Confusion 8y ago
Yes, you only get paid 80% of your former salary.
mcv 8y ago
80% of a good salary is still good. I have rejected one job recently because it turned out they were talking about a full-time salary while I assumed it was for my normal 4-day work week, so in the late stages of the talks, salary suddenly dropped 20% from my perspective. It wasn't the only problem with the job (it was a bit further away than I'd like), but it was the drop that made me look elsewhere. (I'm now doing something similar that's closer and pays better.) I don't think a 4 day work week is 20% less productive than a 5 day one, but generally 80% of a full-time salary in this line of work is still more than enough.

Do you accept a lower salary if you opt to work four days a week?

by willnz 8y ago

Do you accept a lower salary if you opt to work four days a week?

I would hope not. This article suggests that this is not the case (sorry about the adblocker modal): https://www.dutchnews.nl/features/2016/06/professor-aims-to-explore-the-real-role-of-dutch-dads/ https://www.dutchnews.nl/features/2016/06/professor-aims-to-...

balfirevic 8y ago
If that's the case, why do only 28% of working men opt-in for that benefit? Also, it's pretty wild that you are effectively entitled by law to a 25% increase in salary if you have a child under 9.
- cr1895 8y ago
  >Also, it's pretty wild that you are effectively entitled by law to a 25% increase in salary if you have a child under 9. That's incorrect. It's at a reduced salary. If you're on a permanent contract and if your full-time function isn't in some way demonstrably critical to the business, you're also entitled to work fewer hours if you want, unrelated to children.
  - balfirevic 8y ago
    > That's incorrect. It's at a reduced salary. So I presumed, which is why I responded with disbelief to a commenter that sad (in response to a question whether salary is reduced): > I would hope not. This article suggests that this is not the case
Confusion 8y ago
No, there’s some confusion here. There are two distinct benefits you are entitled to when you become a father. One is that you get exactly 1 week of paid leave. The other is the right to take 26 weeks of unpaid ‘parental leave’ during the first 9 years, which is often used to e.g. start working 4 days a week (the leave is used at a rate of 1 day per week then; you could also use it for taking half a year off at once).
- Tempest1981 8y ago
  So "only" 2.5 years of 4-day weeks, with reduced pay.
  - mcv 8y ago
    My wife's job pays 75% percent for parental leave days, but that's not a requirement. Personally, I only apply for jobs that let me work 4 day weeks permanently; I hate having to count how many days I've got left for whatever. (It's the main advantage of being a freelancer to me: no limit on how many vacation days I take.)

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Confusion 8y ago

Yes, you only get paid 80% of your former salary.

mcv 8y ago

80% of a good salary is still good. I have rejected one job recently because it turned out they were talking about a full-time salary while I assumed it was for my normal 4-day work week, so in the late stages of the talks, salary suddenly dropped 20% from my perspective. It wasn't the only problem with the job (it was a bit further away than I'd like), but it was the drop that made me look elsewhere. (I'm now doing something similar that's closer and pays better.) I don't think a 4 day work week is 20% less productive than a 5 day one, but generally 80% of a full-time salary in this line of work is still more than enough.